[ SECRET POST #2312 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2312 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

OP here: the thing is, I want fandom for this show. I want more seasons, I want fic, I want fanart, the whole ball of wax. But as seen in comments above, you can't persuade fandom to watch a show not about skinny pretty white boys. Which, as you point out, is basically fine! People like what they like, and there's nothing wrong with that!

But I think a lot of folks need to turn in their self-righteous indignation card, if you know what I mean.

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But I think a lot of folks need to turn in their self-righteous indignation card, if you know what I mean.

Could not agree with you more.

[(Anonymous)]

No, OP. You are wrong. Here's what you're doing. Follow me.

What everyone is asking for is a delicious golden butter cake, with chocolate frosting and whipped cream piped along the sides. You're making them that cake. You with me? You're making it, and then when you go to serve it, you puke all over it.

Naturally, everyone is upset and won't eat the cake. And you? You're saying, "But it's everything you asked for! You said you wanted golden butter cake! You said you wanted chocolate frosting! You said you wanted whipped cream! You're all just a bunch of hypocrites!"

Huge had fat people in it, which is cake. It made those fat people into a spectacle to be stared at because of their fatness, which is puke all over the cake.

[(Anonymous)]

And how much of your metaphorical puke is all over the pretty white boy shows? Shall we start with "a lot" and go up from there? Just admit you never actually wanted the cake.

[(Anonymous)]

What is your obsession with pretty white boys?

Besides, Huge had quite a few pretty white boys. Not like that show was full of uglies or anything, jeez.

[(Anonymous)]

You've given me an idea. HAY, OP! Cage match time! Who would you pick in a fight between a fat white boy and a pretty black boy? Assume that the white boy is also pretty, even though you keep speaking as if pretty and fat are mutually exclusive concepts.

[(Anonymous)]

you keep speaking as if pretty and fat are mutually exclusive concepts.

Oh good, someone else picked up on that too. Ugh @ OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but you know, chiming in to say I'd probably end up shipping them (if they have chemistry) instead of making them fight to death.

Aestethically pleasing people can be found at any size and colour.

... And now I really need to find a ship like this one. The contrast makes it visually interesting in my head.

[(Anonymous)]

Nuh-uh, guy. Burden of proof is on you. Find a show about fat people that isn't a joke and get back to us.

[(Anonymous)]

Can't think of one with a central character whose fat, but Sookie from Gilmore Girls was treated great!

[(Anonymous)]

-Garcia on Criminal Minds. I don't personally like her, but that's a private idiosyncratic issue with a similar character and who 'got there first'. She's treated as pretty and fashionable, and her love life gets more attention than that of most other characters on the show.

-Donal Logue, on ER and Terriers. Weight was a complete non-issue, he was just treated as a regular guy. The writing made it plain that he was supposed to be considered attractive (and this particular viewer heartily agreed), and he got plenty of sexy-leading-man action.

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't hurt that Garcia is fucking drop dead gorgeous - she's not just written that way, they actually found an actress who's actually fat and actually gorgeous and it's beautiful.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I'm gay and I really hate that LGTB characters are often just put in a show to have a coming out plot, a discrimination plot or being the target of a shit ton of stereotype jokes.
Just because I want more LGTB representation doesn't mean I want characters that are only defined by their LGTBness.

That's why I mostly end up headcanoning random characters as gay that are never said to be gay in-canon. They just offer more to me.

[hiyami]

Drop Dead Diva.

[(Anonymous)]

Huge isn't a joke though. It takes the characters seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you just willfully ignoring the bit where a lot of people don't want to watch a show about fat people *where being fat is a central part of the plot* as opposed to a show with people doing whatever it is they're doing in that particular genre - who also happen to be fat.

[(Anonymous)]

I find you very frustrating. You are basically saying that if anyone ever dislikes this show it is purely 100% because they don't find the characters attractive. That's bullshit, and the fact that you're not acknowledging any other issues or problems people have with it is just annoying. You yourself are coming off as full of self-righteous indignation.

[(Anonymous)]

As a fat person, I want shows about fat people living their lives *and no one making a big deal about their weight and where they go on all the epic adventrues that skinny people on TV go on and *still* no one makes a big deal about their weight.

I want a fat characters weight to be a non-issue.


I don't want a show *about* being fat. I *don't* want a show set in a fat camp, but that's really about how it's okay to be fat. I want a normal TV that happens to have fat people.

[(Anonymous)]

But anon, if you want to persuade anyone you should be talking about everything that is good about the show instead of complaining about all other popular shows.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read all the comments in this thread, so someone probably beat me to it. But I might watch the show, even despite its being set in a fat camp, which, as a fat person, sounds about as appealing as watching a show set in a dentist's office where they really go in for close-up shots of diseased teeth with that lovely whine of the dentist's drill and perhaps someone screaming in pain. (Fat camp=scary and no fun at all.) I might watch it, but from your description it needs a little something extra. And no, not pretty white boys who might kiss. Although I am all about the pretty boys (for my value of pretty which is not everyone's) I do not care if they are various shades of brown, I will find them hot regardless, but not even the presence of hot guys of whatever color would convince me to watch this show on their lonesome.

I would, however, totally watch the show if it turned out that actually, the campers all had superpowers and they form the Fat Justice League, or a dimensional portal opened up when they were around the fire-ring singing Kumbayah and one of the camp-counselors fell through and they had to mount a rescue mission halfway across the universe to get them back, or every week a different campfire story/urban legend monster had to be vanquished by 'those meddling kids'--next week, Sasquatch! Or everyone turns out to be some kind of supernatural critter jockey and they're all contestants in a griffin-riding contest to be held at the end of summer. And if the people doing all this are fat and pretty and occasionally kiss (I'm not a slasher, but the fandom-monolith must apparently be appeased) then bring it on, I will watch it while shoving popcorn down my gaping maw with my fat hands.

I don't watch much tv, and what I do watch, I don't watch to be reminded of all the shit that sucks in my own life, not unless it also involves dragons.

[(Anonymous)]

According to the comments above you can't make people into genre fiction create a fandom for a sitcom. But you really can't accept that, can't you? In your little world everything HAS to be about the size ofhte actors.