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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-02 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2312 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2312 ⌋

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[personal profile] erinptah 2013-05-03 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
At the risk of getting jumped on by people saying "all comparisons between different types of discrimination are invalid!" (and ftr, I'm not saying these situations are identical or anything):

I watched Huge on the official website when it was running, and one of the things that struck me was that some of the dynamics were things I'd expect to see in a summer camp focusing on queer kids. (The supportive kind, not the crazy fundamentalist conversion-therapy kind.) You had a bunch of teenagers, from different backgrounds and with different interests, where the big common thread that bound them together was being bullied in similar ways. No matter what school they'd gone to, the stories were cut from the same cloth. And part of the camp experience was adjusting to an environment where they were average, normal, baseline -- where they could relate to each other based on their personalities and interests, without having that huge identity stumbling block get in the way.

And the kids did have "normal people problems." Everything from mental health problems to gender identity problems to LARPing problems. The adults had issues too, from long-standing family dramas to the quandary of whether it's acceptable to show the kids Twilight for movie night.

Even most of the scenes that were directly about weight or food are more broadly relatable. The kids have these group counseling sessions, with an emphasis on developing comfortable and healthy relationships with themselves, that have the same emotional dynamics you might get when trying to gently encourage any group of anxious, awkward teenagers. There's a staff member who describes herself as a recovering food addict, and whose self-regulation and lingering shame about past behavior feels very much like what you might get in a story about a recovering alcoholic character (which I've never heard anyone complain about on the basis of "people who aren't alcoholics won't want to watch that"). And so on.

tl;dr this show was excellent and had fully-developed characters who were plenty relatable.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-03 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
While this is true, it's not necessarily what people what when they say they want more fat and body positive characters.

Because in the show you're describing the fact that the characters are fat is really, really important - its central the them meeting.

A lot of us want a show where fat people get to do all the stuff that skinny people do without their weight being a big deal.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2013-05-03 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, sure, that's a fair thing to want, and that's not something Huge does.

(Not that the angle it does take is inherently bad, though, any more than something like But I'm A Cheerleader is bad queer representation because the main characters meet by virtue of being queer.)

What I take issue with is the AIRT's complaint that a show where the characters' weights are a major plot point can't address lots of different issues or feature relatable characters.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, THIS!