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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-04 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2314 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the main difference is actually how all-encompassing and how explicitly gendered Moffat's sexism was. RTD's sexism was more about an overly strong focus on romance (that affected the Doctor and male characters like Jack too, not just the female characters) and the problematic elements that came about alongside/after a lot of strong character development.

On the other hand, the big sexist things about Moffat's writing are more gender-essentialist and are the main plots and focal points of his female characters' arcs while not affecting the male characters, and his writing doesn't have as much character development to balance those big events out. Also, Davies didn't make constant jokes based on gender the way Moffat does.

So IA that it is a matter of what bothers you on a personal level, but it's also no surprise Moffat's stuff bothers way more people on a personal level than Davies' stuff, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of Moffatt's jokes are the expense of people who keep crying "misogyny", he's mocking those guys.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, *that's* not petty and snotty and supercilious, noooo. (Note my sarcasm.)
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[personal profile] mfirefly10 2013-05-04 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)

I can see what you're saying. Though I think some of Moffat's jokes are in reaction to some people calling out sexism where it wasn't. I mean, some people called Moffat's era misogynistic right at the start, simply because Amy wore skirts and River was very confidant in her sexuality.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Combined with the hinting that Karen was only worthy to play Amy because he was gorgeous with those long legs~ (and not dumby as he first feared), yeah... it comes off sexists.