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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-04 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2314 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
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Whereas I disliked all of the episodes named above. Girl in the Fireplace was extremely disjointed, though I guess it was meant to be, in some sooper-SYMBOLIC way IDEK. And Blink was William Gibson's Pattern Recognition (or a third of it, anyway) with the serial numbers filed off. And all of the darkly absurdist humour of the original completely excised.
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[personal profile] vongroovy 2013-05-05 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I like Blink well enough, but I've not read Pattern Recognition, so I can't judge it in comparison. I completely agree about Girl in the Fireplace though. I've never understood the love that episode gets because I thought it was such a mess, tried to fit way too much into the time it had, and, looking back, was the first indication of what a boner for timey-wimey gimmickry Moffat has. I rewatched it recently thinking maybe it was better than I remembered, but no.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
How about Empty Child/Doctor Dances, though? I'm hard-pressed to think of a single major thing wrong with that episode, it was so awesome. Maybe because there wasn't any timey-wimey stuff, and RTD probably dictated a lot of what Moffat had to do with it, what with establishing Jack's character and the progression of Doctor+Rose's relationship and all.

I like everything about Girl in the Fireplace apart from the content, weirdly enough. Like, the concept and framework is brilliant, but almost every actual scene of the episode would have been better if it was completely different. I didn't hate it for disjointedness though, I liked the disjointed feel. I hated it for Earth's timeline being saved by stopping a pre-Revolutionary French aristocrat and her aristocrat associates from being killed by evil mindless knee-jerk clockwork monsters who wanted to behead her for reasons that were purposely portrayed as nonsensical and irrational and pointless and laughable. Thanks for the classism, Moffat. So very subtle.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-05-05 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind the plot of TEC/TDD, but omg. Rose is so OOC in TEC. Like she's so ~taken~ with Jack that she can't even hold a conversation? Yikes.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I dunno, I don't think it was so OOC for a 19 year old girl to be temporarily charmed off her ass by a dashing military officer who just saved her life. It'd be stupid if she then went all lovey for him long-term, but it was just a brief giggly phase that was meant to be funny and slightly out of the ordinary.

However, I'll give that that's when you view the episode in a vacuum. In the context of Moffat, all his other genderfail has this unfortunate side-effect of making viewers side-eye anything of his that's even slightly suspect.