[ SECRET POST #2315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/M2pH9lJ.png

[(Anonymous)]

I consider the usage of 'warrior' to be sarcastic and a sign of my contempt for them.

[(Anonymous)]

Right. SJWs don't call themselves that - it's everyone else's term for mocking them.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I still prefer to imagine it stands for "wanker".

[(Anonymous)]

Shhhhhh. Don't say that or the SJW WILL start trying to call themselves activists. We can't let them destroy the word 'activism' like they have 'social justice', 'privilege', and 'appropriation'.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't they already? As said above, "SJW" is the term for mocking them, nobody calls themselves that.

[(Anonymous)]

You've got a point there. You could always read it as "Social Justice Whiner"...I think it fits better anyway.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I prefer to think of it as "Wanker". As if you couldn't tell from the secret that I'm a Brit.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Or 'wacko', 'weirdo', 'wtf'....

+1

[(Anonymous)]

heh, came here to say that.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't this the same fandom where a wheelchair-bound bunny suddenly gets up and walks and saves the day, because apparently you can stop being disabled if you just want it enough? And where some species are automatically villains and some automatically good, no matter what kind of environment they're raised in? No one's ever gotten angry about any of that?

[(Anonymous)]

No one's ever

oh

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I stopped caring about that series around the point where I realized it was basically the same one or two stories over and over again. I'm just saying that from what I remember about it, there was stuff that in other fandoms would be fertile grounds for wank.

[elephantinegrace]

Is nobody going to point out that the villains also had bad teeth and fashion? I don't see anybody raising their pitchforks in support of that.

And I thought the rabbit could always walk, but so poorly that it was better to just be in a wheelchair. (I'm pretty sure she said lifting a leg felt like lifting wet cloth.) I read it as a time when people didn't really have physical therapy (although they are advanced enough to have wheelchairs, apparently). I don't know. Toward the end I was reading it mostly for the food porn.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't it established as psychosomatic in the intro? Something about the trauma of seeing her parents murdered?

[(Anonymous)]

She witnessed the slaughter of her entire colony with only her, her brother, and their grandmother surviving.

[morieris]

I was coming here to say the same thing about the species although it did get better about shades of grey from Doomwyes to the end.

[cloud_riven]

About the species like rats, foxes, and whatever automatically being villains (with wildcats and owls being the gray area), I recall that being an intentional thing as he was writing for children first. Hence having clear lines most of the time.

Why do you make mice, squirrels, otters and badgers "good" and foxes, rats, ferrets and such "bad"? How do you decide which are good and which are bad?
The bad creatures are those which are traditionally bad in European folk lore and have come to be regarded as sly or mean or evil.The good creatures are mostly small and defenceless, with the exception of the badgers.

Will you ever have any really good vermin or bad woodlanders in any of your stories?
No! The goodies are good and the baddies are BAD, no grey areas.

(from the Q&As on his site)

It really bugged me when I was younger and reading the books though. Veil was pretty much the only character whose motivations were purposefully left open for interpretation, but everyone else was automatically evil, evil, evil! Doesn't bug me so much now, but I think I'm glad for the consistency of writing with a certain audience in mind, rather than "growing up" with the readers.

[blunderbuss]

That mentality really bothers me. Not do I think that it's insulting to think that children can't handle moral complexity, but the idea of 'some people are just BAD' is not a good one to grow up with.

That, and the fact that it's just easier for an author to write. Lots of authorital laziness is covered up with 'but its for kids'.

[gruesome]

Especially since he highlighted it with an entire book being about how a bad-race raised by good-races will STILL BE EVIL and a good-race raised by bad-races will ALWAYS BE GOOD. So you can't even call it laziness at that point, it was clearly his intention to hammer it home.

[(Anonymous)]

I consider "warrior" to be pretty neutral in terms of what one of fighting for -- it could be something good or bad, and honor and justice don't have to have anything to do with it.

That said, I think "social justice warrior" is supposed to be a dig at what they think they are doing. I'm not sure, but I think it might have started off life as a positive descriptor, before being adopted as a term of condemnation.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Words have the meaning you ascribe to them. I have no problem with people using the term but prefer to mentally use a different one.

[(Anonymous)]

"people who get good shit done are activists"

What about MRAs? lol

[cloud_riven]

SJW is total sarcasm though.

I guess you could use "couch activists" although it's not necessarily as popular, but still clearly mocking.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I know that, I just still like to adjust the term a little.