[ SECRET POST #2315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't this the same fandom where a wheelchair-bound bunny suddenly gets up and walks and saves the day, because apparently you can stop being disabled if you just want it enough? And where some species are automatically villains and some automatically good, no matter what kind of environment they're raised in? No one's ever gotten angry about any of that?

[(Anonymous)]

No one's ever

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[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I stopped caring about that series around the point where I realized it was basically the same one or two stories over and over again. I'm just saying that from what I remember about it, there was stuff that in other fandoms would be fertile grounds for wank.

[elephantinegrace]

Is nobody going to point out that the villains also had bad teeth and fashion? I don't see anybody raising their pitchforks in support of that.

And I thought the rabbit could always walk, but so poorly that it was better to just be in a wheelchair. (I'm pretty sure she said lifting a leg felt like lifting wet cloth.) I read it as a time when people didn't really have physical therapy (although they are advanced enough to have wheelchairs, apparently). I don't know. Toward the end I was reading it mostly for the food porn.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't it established as psychosomatic in the intro? Something about the trauma of seeing her parents murdered?

[(Anonymous)]

She witnessed the slaughter of her entire colony with only her, her brother, and their grandmother surviving.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that, and her grandmother walked to the Abbey with the kid on her back. I recall there being some mention in her intro of there being no physiucal injury to her and no obvious reason why she couldn't walk; thus, psychosomatic, thus deus ex machina but perfectly reasonable for her to get up and lay the smackdown when dramatically appropriate.

[morieris]

I was coming here to say the same thing about the species although it did get better about shades of grey from Doomwyes to the end.

[cloud_riven]

About the species like rats, foxes, and whatever automatically being villains (with wildcats and owls being the gray area), I recall that being an intentional thing as he was writing for children first. Hence having clear lines most of the time.

Why do you make mice, squirrels, otters and badgers "good" and foxes, rats, ferrets and such "bad"? How do you decide which are good and which are bad?
The bad creatures are those which are traditionally bad in European folk lore and have come to be regarded as sly or mean or evil.The good creatures are mostly small and defenceless, with the exception of the badgers.

Will you ever have any really good vermin or bad woodlanders in any of your stories?
No! The goodies are good and the baddies are BAD, no grey areas.

(from the Q&As on his site)

It really bugged me when I was younger and reading the books though. Veil was pretty much the only character whose motivations were purposefully left open for interpretation, but everyone else was automatically evil, evil, evil! Doesn't bug me so much now, but I think I'm glad for the consistency of writing with a certain audience in mind, rather than "growing up" with the readers.

[blunderbuss]

That mentality really bothers me. Not do I think that it's insulting to think that children can't handle moral complexity, but the idea of 'some people are just BAD' is not a good one to grow up with.

That, and the fact that it's just easier for an author to write. Lots of authorital laziness is covered up with 'but its for kids'.

[gruesome]

Especially since he highlighted it with an entire book being about how a bad-race raised by good-races will STILL BE EVIL and a good-race raised by bad-races will ALWAYS BE GOOD. So you can't even call it laziness at that point, it was clearly his intention to hammer it home.