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⌈ Secret Post #2317 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Sheltered fan rant

[(Anonymous)]

It makes sense that you feel that way, but I think rather than direct experiences, a lot of people just connect to more extreme things in metaphorical ways because this is what a lot of media does: it makes rare, extreme experiences universal and relatable to a much broader audience.

And I think what most people pick up on is a similar emotional state that they can relate back to their own traumas.

There are some things that people should definitely be more careful about, but overall I just think the line cuts both ways in this case, although I'm sorry it does end up making you go through that.

Re: Sheltered fan rant

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for putting it that way, that does give me another perspective on this. I mean, I was sort of grasping at this idea, but you put it so well and succinctly.

This may sound kind of stupid, but do you think there's a place to share the more extreme experiences in fan spaces, as relating through these creative media? Maybe constructively, in some way, so it doesn't just sound like a lot of bitching about experiences?

Re: Sheltered fan rant

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just glad it was useful! Honestly, I didn't really know if it was my place to say it, and I had just hoped I didn't come off as gruff or dismissive

And that's not stupid at all, anon!

Instinctively, I'd say that yes, there's definitely a place for it. However, I'm not really sure how to put that into action either.

With the advent of tumblr transforming open-forum discussion more into this really big game of telephone, on a larger and less personal scale the easiest way may just be meta essays. They would give you a lot of breadth to talk about the intersection of personal experience, portrayal of this sort of thing in the media, and the way it flows down in a way the audience can relate to.

Plus it would give a hook (fictional characters people care about) while also giving the breadth to give voice to important criticisms--since like I think you were saying originally, too, desensitization is definitely an uncomfortable part of this, and can also unfortunately be part of what makes them "palatable".

Otherwise I think just talking about them in whatever way you're comfortable with (you definitely don't need to put yourself on the line) and how that filters down through media, and why that's good/bad/other is pretty constructive in itself.

Deconstructing and analyzing specific instances and characters is also always a good way to communicate. Even maybe advice for fic writers, to help them avoid engaging in harmful (and just as often lazy) cliches that do little more than press a button.

On LJ and DW it could also just be easier to talk to people directly.

Anyway, sorry for prattling on. It's mostly just brainstorming, but I really do think that anything that helps people understand the depth of what they're writing and consuming is a good thing.

Re: Sheltered fan rant

[(Anonymous)]

Don't apologize, this has helped immensely!

Thanks for the suggestions, it's given me a lot to think about. I do, in fact, have a lot of meta about a lot of the specific issues I've been thinking about, but I guess I've been too chicken to put them out there in fandom. (Also your description of tumblr is hilarious and sadly accurate. But I think you're right in that meta is a good medium for this platform.)

And you're right, being able to use creative media and characters to get fans to feel and think about actual issues they may have become desensitized to, and be able to present it in a light they haven't thought of before.

Thanks again, I'll be thinking on how and if I should offer up my experiences for fandom.