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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-07 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2317 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2317 ⌋

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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-05-08 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I actually hadn't even known they'd ever interacted AT ALL when I started shipping them. I just heard about it, and then I really liked it because of the personality appeal. (Sort of an opposites attract type thing - uptight and bespoke with snarky and rugged). I figured it was like a Mystrade thing - Mycroft and Lestrade of Sherlock fandom, who were the second largest pairing in Sherlock fandom way back when even though they'd literally never interacted in the show and most likely didn't even know about each others' existences. I was quite pleasantly surprised when I heard Clint and Phil had shared some lines beforehand.

Some pairings with extensive interaction have small followings while others with little to no interaction hit it big. In most fandoms, I've noticed that canon interaction between the characters often has very little to do with the popularity of the pairing. Usually it's just the characters themselves, their histories personalities. If you look at (MCU) Steve/Tony fics, they often have very little to do with the tension built up in the movies - usually it's related to their personalities (very proper hero with the very improper anti-hero), their histories (daddy issues with Steve and Howard, anyone?), and their backgrounds (old-fashioned man out of time vs modern futurist). Usually, even when their canon interaction is brought up it's mostly in relation to those previous not-directly-canon issues rather than the interaction itself.

*shrugs* Really, most of fandom in general tends to just use canon material as a jumping point and run away from there, if you think about it. ANY pairing - from something as popular as Steve/Tony or canonical as Pepper/Tony to as remote as, IDK, Frigga/Tony (most obscure pairing I could think of that actually has fic for it) needs little to nothing - even if it'll happily take a lot - because most of fandom at large doesn't need that much to go on in the first place.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-05-08 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Insert image of applauding character here, because that's about as good a run-down of fandom's approach to shipping and fic in general and to Clint/Coulson in particular as one could hope to find.

If canon interaction were so crucial to any fandom, I doubt we'd see the AUs we do.

A while back I noticed the big difference between fangirls and fanboys. I mean, I hate to generalize based on gender, so maybe it should be more in fangirl/fanboy-dominated space or something like that, but anyway...fanboys seem more invested in what physical actions a character took (can Superman beat the Hulk?), whereas fangirls seem more invested in the emotional actions of the character (what do you think Tony went through when he realized he went farther from Earth than any human being ever and slaughtered thousands, if not millions, of the second alien species to make contact with Earth?). It's not a hard-and-fast rule, but it's part of, I guess, what lends fic toward not needing to rely on the canon actions of characters so much as the characters themselves.

Also, y'know, in all the explanations I've ever given for Clint/Coulson, I've almost never actually brought up the most obvious of "uptight and bespoke with snarky and rugged." Silly me.