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It's all fun and games until it's an issue that affects you personally and/or emotionally.

basically. of all the offensive shit on that show, it's the DV that upsets me-- go figure, i was raised in a house where my mom, brothers, and i were all beaten on a regular basis

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For me it was the way the show treats Meg. I was treated like that all growing up and I find nothing about it funny.

I had a teacher who treated me that way, even calling me Meg (which is nowhere close to my name). I was indifferent to the show up until that point, now I can't even hear about it without getting upset.

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silverau - 2013-05-12 07:44 (UTC) - Expand

Me too. When Meg tries to give Connie a High School Musical CD as a gift and gets teased for still liking it (among other things), it really struck a nerve with me because it's EXACTLY something I would've done at her age.

that thought it was a great idea to make fun of stroke victims, who are really really really common.

Okay.

There's nothing wrong with offensive humour as such. It is a thing. One doesn't want it, one doesn't watch such shows.

The only thing that is truly unforgivable is when the offensive jokes turn out to be unfunny (which, I should admit, they often do).

I've noticed that my friends who are into Family Guy--by which I mean really into not just watching when it's on--tend to be absolute douches.

They tend to make really racist and homophobic jokes, and then repeat them louder when you ask them to stop. They tend to be meaner in general. They tend to think being mean is hilarious in and of itself. One's married to one of my best friends, so I didn't get distance myself from him like other jerky people from college.

I mean, Family Guy has the right to be offensive. It does. And it's clearly very popular. But I also think this shit either has an effect on people or makes mean people think themselves justified. I'd compare it to South Park, which also has mean humor but also treats at least some of its main characters as ultimately decent, worthwhile people. The Simpsons are another example.

I agree with you completely. The thing people don't understand is that it's really, really difficult to make offensive jokes on a regular basis without internalizing some of those views. It just is. That doesn't mean offensive jokes can't be funny, or that no one should make them ever.

Re: So it's a funny, clever show with loveable characters

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Re: So it's a funny, clever show with loveable characters

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I agree with you, actually. The people I've known who have been into any of those shows think that being an asshole to other people is hilarious, and don't stop when asked.

A friend's step-father was super into Family Guy + The Simpsons and spent a lot of time treating his stepkids like shit, even in front of me. (Calling them fat, telling them they were worthless, making fun of the dumbest shit they couldn't do right, never saying anything nice about them. Then he expected ME to laugh about it. NOT FUNNY. YOU'RE JUST AN ASS.) And there are others who are worse. Of course, I distance myself from these types of people, but I find the trend startling. Like people can't tell the difference between a TV show's shitty sense of humor and real life, where that type of humor can actually hurt people's feelings.

I can't watch those shows because I need realism in my characters--I need people to react realistically to a situation, and for people to say things that make sense. Shows like Family Guy are just a bunch of shitty jokes IMO, so I can't watch them. They just make me angry and I can't stand watching.

However, I've laughed at some Family Guy/Southpark/Simpsons jokes in the past, usually told to me by other people and properly referenced. Sometimes they say funny things. But for me, it doesn't balance out the horrible jokes.

I mean, my sister and I greet each other with, "Hey ho/skank/slut," but we know that's okay to use on each other, but not random strangers. Humor has its limits, and you have to be really careful who you use humor around.

I had a professor in high school have a stroke. Half his face didn't come back right away. It took months. He came back and taught like that. At the time, I never really thought about how much courage it took him to come and teach a bunch of asshole kids that didn't even like him. (He was always telling us how stupid we were.) But even then, I felt sorry for him. I never thought him having a stroke was funny. And shortly after high school, my former best friend ended up with Bells Palsy which, IIRC, had the same effect on her (short-term, but it was scary). She told me over the phone, "God, I wish I'd never made fun of Mr. Geometry Professor. I know what it's like now, and it's humiliating."

I can see why people think those shows are sometimes funny but they're just hurtful to me, and some people, I've noticed, like you have, take them to extremes and think it's natural or okay to act like that IRL to other people. These are the assholes who would make fun of a friend if that friend had a stroke--and that's horrifying to me. That someone would think that was, in any way, okay.

Agreed, so much.

And then they trot out my favourite line: "Why can't you take a joke?"

AHAHAHAHAHA no.

You see, I'm massively thankful that my friends (and I,actually) are into this show, but are really quite good, sympathetic people. Of course, when I'm seeing this on reruns now, I think a lot of the jokes are incredibly unfunny, so I'm starting to get fed up with it in general. My friends still like it fairly well, and I'm glad that they're all fairly antithetical to what seems to have happened to your friends.

a guy I knew in college used to quote that fucking gross Quagmire character all the time

surprise, surprise, he was kicked out of school for stalking and harassing (and possibly whatever else) women on campus

The only thing I find offensive about this show is its idea of "comedy."

I am genuinely interested in hearing why you love the characters in Family Guy.

I don't know shit, because I don't watch the show, but how shitty the characters are sometimes does sort of fit into real life, because tons of people are super flawed. I wonder if maybe some of the cast, at least, reminds the OP of someone they know.

That said, sometimes the characters are so mean to each other that I can't really say I could ever LOVE them. I bet they have their moments, but in general...? I guess I'm just as curious to know.

I hear a lot of "well, if you like THIS show (south park/family guy/american dad/the boondocks/so-and-so live comedy show/etc) you're [insert -ist here]", but that's not necessarily true. The above shows I mentioned are horribly offensive in various ways and I still find them to be utterly hilarious, and yet I'm definitely not the type of person to make -ist/ic jokes or find certain things humorous IRL.

To me, there's a huge difference between what's okay in comedy and what's okay IRL. I think Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks is *hilarious*, but I personally wouldn't condone his kind of behavior/thoughts IRL.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm an anomaly or if there are loads of other people out there who do/feel the same.

Saying someone is "-ist" because of the media they consume is an oversimplification at best, especially since most media is problematic in one way or another.

There is also a problem with telling other people what they should and should not find offensive. It's okay to voice your opinions, but in the end we all have to make our own decisions about what is a real problem and what isn't.

I also have a lot of respect for shows like South Park that basically say, "Look, we're going to make fun of everything because we're not going to try to pick and choose what is offensive and what isn't. We're just going to try to be funny."

Yes but

It's okay to voice your opinions

which we are doing.

I agree with you. I love those shows as well.

Sometimes I think that society as a whole has become to sensitive, and take things to personally. I think that people need to take a chill pill and relax. Just because someone makes an "-ist" joke doesn't mean you need to get your panties in a twist. People want freedom of speech but only if it is their kind of speech.

People want freedom of speech but they think speech shouldn't be criticized or else people are getting their "panties in a twist."

We have freedom of speech, but that doesn't translate to freedom from criticism.

It depends on ~why~ people like something.
I used to know a guy who loved Two and a Half Men because - according to him - Charlie was sooo cool and funny because he was "like real men should be".

I took the hint and distanced myself from him immediatly.

Context is everything. Someone isnt -ist because they like Family Guy, but a majority of the -ist people I know from college fucking love Family Guy.

I'd wager that a kid constantly surrounded by Family Guy humor would be more likely to end up -ist because, well... anyone who is made uncomfortable by that humor is clearly oversensitive, right? Faggot.

Edited 2013-05-12 04:24 (UTC)

Peter's face looks hilarious. For a moment I thought it was an animation mistake.

You know, I wish I could get money for every time someone I know mentions how "Haha, *insert show* was so funny yesterday when they bashed *insert minority* but when they bashed *insert thing that means something to me* it was absolutely horrible. Omg, they should stop that shit! So unfunny! Why would you laugh about that?!"

I wouldn't need a second job!

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