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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-11 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2321 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2321 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-11 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I'm annoyed by what's good for the gander being unforgivable for the goose. Elena stabbed Stefan when he had his emotions off? YOU GO GIRL! Stefan tries to keep emotions-off Elena from murdering someone? OH MY GOD HE IS SO CONTROLLING WHY HE CAN'T HE JUST LET HER DO WHAT SHE WANTS?

As for the torture thing, it's proven that it works. Hell, it's how Lexie always dried Stefan out. Leaving Elena loose without her emotions was a disaster waiting to happen. Just like Damon was a disaster before he had a conscience.

Anyway, I don't blame Elena for her actions while she was emotionless. But I do dislike when people who act like her behavior at the time was awesome and girl-powery and telling it like it is. She was at best hurtful for the sake of being hurtful, and at worst a casual killer.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-11 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of double standards on part of the audience, that I totally agree with.

But the torture thing does not work. Lexi's method for 'fixing' Stefan has proven itself to not work, given the fact that she's had to do it many times and that emotionless Stefan still is 'Ripper' Stefan.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
In Stefan's case, you're basically saying that rehab is supposed to cure you forever. Stefan is an addict who turns off his emotions because he needs to justify murder to himself and can't handle the guilt. He has relapses and unfortunately Lexie had to rehab him several times. The torture isn't meant to cure who you are when you have your emotions off, it's meant to get you to turn your emotions on so you can look at the world with a conscience and build from there.

Tl:dr, Lexie's methods were not for Ripperism, they were for getting emotions to return so you have something to work with. After the torture I think it's pretty clear that Lexie went softer -- Stefan's diary mentioned that he spent decades after that in a depression during which Lexie's method involved trying to make him laugh.