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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2323 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2323 ⌋

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean that there's a stigma that if you're religious then you must be less intelligent than the average atheist. Most websites that I'm on (tumblr espeically) seem to regard religion as explicitly fiction, treat it as childish, see no reason why anyone would believe any of it, etc. So religious people therefore stay mum.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I see. I, personally, cannot bring myself to believe it. But I can see how/why others would (I would expect for the same reasons I decided Religion I Was Raised With was not for me).

And hell, you have to go to school to be a preacher, right? (A quick google suggests there's some debate on the necessity of formal education, but still.) Religious people know their shit. More than a few may be batshit crazy, but that goes for any classified group of people.

Fun fact: I just discovered today through random link-clicking that Mr. Rogers was a Presbyterian minister. I defy anyone to question that man's worth.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

Religious person here, adding to the discussion. I can't speak for other denominations, but at my church, our minister puts in extra work "behind the scenes". She doesn't just turn up on Sunday and then just lounge around for the rest of the week eating chocolate. There's behind-the-scenes work involved - planning, talking to people, trying to get stuff organized, etc.

Also, from what I've gathered, to become a minister or a priest, you don't just read the Bible - you study the extra stuff outside the gospels, the historical & cultural context that things took place, and the work of past scholars and all their different interpretations.

~* The More You Know! *~

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
This. When I was growing up**, the ministers in my city were on call 24/7; and if they weren't available, there was a list of standby elders "on call."

But ministers were expected to drop everything, at all hours, to go to hospital/bedside/front door/etc when they were called. Not all of them showed up (or were particularly helpful when they did), but the majority of them did, and they were helpful/supportive/etc.

**There were over a thousand people in my local congregation, so my anecdata may not be representative.
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Re: OP

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-05-14 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
One example I can think of outside-church work for ministers: visiting parishners who may just need a friend, or going and doing one-on-one Bible study.

The latter is modus operandi in my church for teenagers heading up to baptism. I did baptismal classes twice, because my first time I didn't get around to the actual baptism and by the second my church had a new minister.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
IIRC there are quite a few of us believers (from at least a few major religions) here on F!S, and whenever religious-themed threads/secrets/GC come up, the atheists and agnostics here seem pretty chill with it/us/etc.

Breath of fresh air compared to Tumblr, tbqh. And it is actually the preaching on Tumblr that sets my teeth on edge. Like nails down a chalkboard. It is so bad. So. Bad. *shudder*

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Preaching on tumblr? Where? (I've never actually seen this before, so maybe I'm hanging out in the wrong places.)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

http://tumblr.com/tagged/bible/

FWIW I haven't checked the tag in a while, but it was fairly evenly split between the evangelical fundie nuts and the evangelical atheist nuts, when I was visiting it regularly.

(AYRT just wants pretty non-icon/non-idol pictures with, y'know, actual scriptures on them)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
oh, dear :(

i sometimes feel rather alone, being a "left-wing" Christian.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-05-14 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I am moderately left of middle, and will gladly offer a supportive hug.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-05-14 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
protip: tumblr is not the rest of the world

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
If you visit atheist websites, you're going to get an atheist point of view. There's no way that "most websites" regard religion as fiction, as the majority of people in the world are religious.

I'm sorry if encountering points of view other than your own made you feel bad, but it's nothing those of us with minority beliefs don't encounter all the time. If you think being called childish feels bad, imagine what it feels like to be called a hell-bound whore who hates babies and America.