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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2323 ]


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Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
>>I have never once heard a Christian claim that any misogynistic or homophobic content is a "metaphor" for anything.<<

na

I see this shit on facebook every day:
"XY is wrong, the Bible says so. But ABC shouldn't be taken literally, it's just a metaphor." This is picking and choosing and every Christian does it. Be it for doing good or for oppressing others.

If you really want to ignore everything from your religion or holy texts that doesn't mix with your own moral code anymore, then why be part of that religion at all? Distance yourself from established religions while keeping your faith in those things that make sense to you as a moral, modern person. At least that's how I roll *shrugs*

I'm usually on the side of atheists even though I'm a believer, so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about this subject. In my opinion, every religion is taught. Religion is regional and varies from place to place, church to church.
Why identify with something this flimsy?
"I don't want to be lumped in with the bigots but I still want to have part of their cake" is all I hear when "good and loving" religious people complain about atheists or agnostics.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
“"XY is wrong, the Bible says so. But ABC shouldn't be taken literally, it's just a metaphor." This is picking and choosing and every Christian does it. Be it for doing good or for oppressing others.”

Well, yes. Part of reading any story is deciding what the author “meant” by including certain scenes, or how they are supposed to be read. Also, the Bible is not one work, but a collection of works. It is not that uncommon to have Christians side-eye certain books in the Bible that are generally considered in scholarly circles to be late additions.

“If you really want to ignore everything from your religion or holy texts that doesn't mix with your own moral code anymore, then why be part of that religion at all?”

Because it can be something deeply ingrained in your family or culture. You might practice the religion for tradition’s sake, even if you might not take the stories as literal truth. And regardless of whether or not it is factually true, religion can give you some sort of spiritual comfort. I’m one of those people that believes that God (or the higher power I call God) is with everyone, regardless of belief system (or lack of). It also just be a lot more convenient to identify with a religion, depending on where you live. And furthermore, if you have kids it provides a sort of safety net for difficult questions like what happened to Rover after he got hit by a truck.

“Distance yourself from established religions while keeping your faith in those things that make sense to you as a moral, modern person. At least that's how I roll *shrugs*”

That is my personal opinion on the matter as well.

“I'm usually on the side of atheists even though I'm a believer, so maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about this subject.”

I don’t believe the Bible is “the inerrant word of God” so I’m probably not the best person to talk to either, lol.

“ In my opinion, every religion is taught. Religion is regional and varies from place to place, church to church.”

Agreed.

“Why identify with something this flimsy? “
Tradition/family/convenience/etc.

“"I don't want to be lumped in with the bigots but I still want to have part of their cake" is all I hear when "good and loving" religious people complain about atheists or agnostics.”

I still don’t see why this is a bad thing. No one wants to be associated with homophobes/misogynists/etc. I don’t personally have a problem with the “pick and choose” religious people if they are not harming anyone.
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Re: da

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-05-14 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Why identify with something this flimsy? "

Because the particular version I was raised with still holds a lot of truths for me?