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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2323 ]


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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Except that 'growing out of' something specifically refers to when the change is 'I am no longer a child' - therefor, somebody who is still interested in it is, or has the mentality of, a child.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Except that people growing out of childhood does not make childhood a bad thing in itself. It's simply something you leave behind when the time is right, same as with fandom interests.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
You cannot honestly be claiming that there is no insult in calling an adult a child....

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
wow, yeah you are really reading into things no one is saying
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you are really not reading anything at all.

Let's break down this conversation. With small words. So you can't play disingenuous 'glory' games.

OP says they have 'grown out' of comics.

Anon 1 points out that that is an ill-chosen choice of words, because only children grow out of things.

Anon 2 says 'it's OK for tastes to change'.

I reiterate Anon 1's point.

Anon 2 or 3 comes back and says 'but not being a child any more doesn't mean there was something wrong with being a child'.

I point out that that has nothing to do with adults, which is what the whole gods bedamned conversation was about in the first place.

Then you show up, with your complete lack of understanding of the conversation, and try to pretend that the conversation was not about that at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
yes I am now quite convinced you are not taking this way too seriously and seeing what you want to see
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever lets you sleep well at night.

Me, I'll sleep soundly knowing that I actually understand the words that I use, unlike you.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
lol okay

everyone else who uses words that way is totes wrong forever

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
protip: calling people who disagree with you 'stupid' and 'idiots' does not make you look smarter or convince us you aren't taking this way too seriously

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
the op said they grew out of something.
you claim that this is somehow calling 'an adult' (you?) 'a child' by phrasing it this way
several people point out a) no it doesn't b) even if it did, it's not an insult, and c) the phrase often has nothing to do with children at all.

my brother is looked for a new house and car because with the new baby on the way, he has 'outgrown' his current ones. does this mean he's somehow called himself a child or insulted anyone who has outgrown their home? that doesn't make any sense. it looks like you took offense to the implication that comics are somehow childish, despite the fact that the op never said or implied anything of the sort, and now you're just... determined to continue insisting you're right?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love how they ignore this comment

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
I guess its because they can't nitpick the grammar or call me stupid or whatever lol

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think you are being a mite bit hyperdefensive and seeing things that aren't intended. Growing out of something doesn't exclusively imply growing /up/. I grow out of clothes, my plants grow out of their garden beds, etc.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Growing out of something doesn't exclusively imply growing /up/

Yes, it does.

Even the purely physical 'growing out of' is all about growing up - only children grow out of clothes. Adults gain weight and no longer fit in their clothes.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
you are being needlessly pedantic to justify your weird outrage. in my language/dialect, we say 'I grew out of these clothes' all the time to mean gaining (or even losing) weight. and I guess my plants are no longer children either, huh?

there are so many hills man
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, I am pointing a simple fact of the English language, whereas you are playing disingenuous games with it to pretend I am outraged.

Which I wasn't until some idiot got in my face, pulling this transparent Humpty Dumpty shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
your 'simple fact of the English language' is not 100 percent always universal, as demonstrated by the examples given

and it's kind of too late to pretend you don't curr bout this, bb

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
uh no?

people outgrow clothes, houses, and hobbies all the time

you are being silly
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-14 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
people outgrow clothes, houses, and hobbies all the time

Those people are children, entire families (and thus out of context of this discussion), and children.

Adults do not grow out of stuff. That is the standard connotation of the word 'growing'.

But, of course, we are having this conversation in properly spelt (if not properly capitalized), grammatically correct (aside from that pesky capitalization thing) English, so, obviously you know that, so I am through being trolled by you.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
yes not using proper capitalisation on fs means I am a troll. I couldn't possibly be on a tablet or just not give a crap.

you are /so mad/ that someone dared to use a turn of phrase you are determined to read as implying comics are immature

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
You are embarrassing.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
So what is personal, spiritual, economic growth, et al?

There are lots of ways to use the word growth without referring to the passage between childhood and adulthood. You are ignoring that and being extremely superior and snobby in regards to non-native English speakers and/or people with learning disabilities so you can continue to be insulted by something that isn't actually insulting.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know any adults? They 'grow out of' hobbies on a regular basis, in the sense that they have changed and are no longer interested in the thing they used to be interested in. That does not imply that the thing they were interested in was wrong or childish to begin with.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think that people hit some magical point in their late teens/early '20s where, suddenly, all growth ceases?

We continue to grow, even after we've become adults. We never stop growing. You have taken your preferred interpretation of a word and phrase that can have many and used it to deny this fact. And the condescension over the fact that everyone is speaking in English only makes it worse -- many words in English have multiple meanings, as is the case in all languages.

You weren't trolled. You were the troll.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
This is what the others meant about reading into things.

I loved horses as a kid. Was absolutely mad for them. Dreamed of them, drew them, decorated with them. When i got older, my interests changed. I still like them,but I outgrew my intense passion for the subject. How exactly am I calling riders, jockeys, trainers, people who just love horses, etc., childish for liking them in a way I no longer do? The answer is - I'm not.

You obviously like comics so you are being defensive of that, but it is honestly just reading hurt where none was intended. You really should just have said 'oh my bad' and walked away instead of flinging insults and being stubborn.