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fandomsecrets2013-05-13 06:50 pm
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Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:42 am (UTC)(link)My younger sister is gay. She gets hit on by men from time to time, and this is very awkward for her. One day an older man hit on her and began to stalk her down the street. She finally told him she wasn't into men-and he FOLLOWED HER TO OUR HOUSE, begging her to let him "stick his dick in her, so he could fix her" "It was ADAM AND EVE! Not Eve and another pussy!" and shit like that. There's also this obnoxious Christian woman who harasses people on the subway about religion, and then there's those nuts who harass people outside of Downtown Crossing.
I have been harassed many, many times by religious people outside-but I have never seen one atheist/agnostic person preaching on a corner or chasing me up my driveway.
Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 03:46 am (UTC)(link)I am; I live in the Northeast.
"Because if you are, I'm a little confused as to how you are blissfully ignorant of how much religion rules the roost here-and how things like gay marriage/birth control are still being fought for, because they are ~against god~.
What in my comment, pray tell, gave off the impression that I am ~blissfully ignorant~ about Christianity in America? I find that incredibly presumptuous and tangential; my comment was not a general statement about how American Christians use (or misuse) religion, but instead about the issue of metaphor and cultural context in the Bible, and how Christians I've met explain the discrepancies. My last paragraph addresses the notion that you don't know where the people who "whine" (as you so eloquently put it) come from. Not everyone on the internet is an American.
"My younger sister is gay...I have been harassed many, many times by religious people outside-but I have never seen one atheist/agnostic person preaching on a corner or chasing me up my driveway."
D: My heart sincerely goes out to your sister. I seriously hope she called the cops on that asshole, because no one should EVER have to feel that unsafe. And as far as the other people who you say harass others, have you contacted the police about them as well?
That being said, those obnoxious asshats are not indicative of all Christians. And I know that's a phrase you don't like hearing, but it's one that is correct. You point out the loud, extreme ones, but what about the random people you share the subway with/work with/pass on the streets? All the Christians that aren't complete nutcases? They do exist, whether you wish to acknowledge them or not.
As far as atheist "preaching" goes, the college campus I was at on had plenty of those who couldn't wait to tell believers (well, just Christians, naturally) how utterly wrong they were about everything, and how they were ~blind sheep~ and that if they read Dawkins they would ~see the light~ because if no one was religious then there would be no more wars ever and everything would be peaceful and great because religion is, of course, the root of all corruption/evil, and this would only be possible if people stopped "buying into fairy tale bullshit." Annoying as hell, but ultimately harmless.
I'm definitely not trying to say that preaching atheists are "as bad" as the preaching Christians (not by a long shot), just that you get nutcases in every group.
Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 06:59 am (UTC)(link)Evo-psychobabble is another favourite. Recylced pat arguments are favoured because you don't actually have to think for yourself (and no, before you leap in, that doesn't "prove" all religion is lazy and stupid, it proves that people who are lazy and stupid use lazy and stupid reasoning)
I'm in the UK, and I have known a lot of atheists laying in to religious people - inluding one obnoxiously eating a sandwich in front of a Muslim colleague during Ramadan whilst lecturing him on how his oppressive religion made him starve himself for no reason. FWIW, agnostic myself, I'd far rather spend time with him than her.
Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)You don't know that. Being a Christian doesn't magically inoculate a person against being a raging asshole. If he was talking about "Adam and Eve," that implies at least a nominal adherence to some Abrahamic religion, so unless you're trying to fob him off on the Muslims or Jews, then it's reasonable to conclude that he was probably a Christian of some sort. Don't let's No-True-Scotsman this.
Re: da
(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 10:16 am (UTC)(link)