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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-14 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2324 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2324 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Star Trek: Deep Space 9]


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[Supernatural]


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[Kailin Gow]


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[Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends]


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[The Collection]


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[Press Gang]


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[Elementary]


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[Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters]


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[Scrubs]


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[Doctor Who/Narnia]


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[Jill Valentine/Resident Evil]


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[Homestuck]


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[Lost in Austen]


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[BBC Sherlock/Jim Moriarty]


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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, Lucifer is more human acting that Raphael. This makes him a much more sympathetic villain.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-05-14 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
True. The OP might have a point about the racism though. I mean, there's a part of fandom fawning over one-shot angels like Inias while Raphael ha a full storyline and no one's stanning over him

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Raphael was awesome, but I don't like to stan, so...

Also, I think I liked Raphael because I liked when the angels had that rather menacing sense of power about them. That is why I initially liked Castiel - his initial statement of how he dragged Dean out of hell and he could put him right back there if he wanted to, as an example. And it probably explains why I now do not like Castiel at all. Entirely too human. It's like he's got no angel mojo left except for deus ex machina plot purposes.

Anyway, I liked Raphael. That was all I meant to say.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-14 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but the fawning only lasts for like one episode.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-05-15 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well that's just it. Raphael never had anyone stanning over him.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-15 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
But that's just the problem, Raphael doesn't have a full storyline, and he also doesn't have any sympathetic qualities whatsoever. We have no idea where he fit into the archangel/God dynamic, how he got along with his brothers, nothing. He expressed no love or attachment to anyone or anything, and unlike Lucifer or Gabriel, he wasn't even funny. To me this made him an extraordinarily difficult character to like or empathize with.

The only remotely legitimate reason he gave for anything he did was "We're tired," and I tend not to buy that one because it's been used as justification for all sorts of unacceptable douchebaggery by various characters on the show. It's an understandable thing, but not a valid excuse to act like a psychopath. And then Raphael went and essentially declared that he was going to be the next God, beat the snot out of Castiel for arguing with him, co-opted the Purgatory plan as soon as he found out about it, and then turned around and tried to appeal to Cas's sense of family when he found himself backed into a corner. None of this endeared him to me.

He's another one like Bela; nothing there to get attached to. Except that unlike her, he wasn't even very interesting or entertaining. He was a badass, I'll give him that, but that by itself isn't enough to hold my attention very long.

I liked Inias because he was, to all appearances, a genuinely nice guy, even if we didn't find out much about him. Then again, I also liked Joshua for the same reason.