[ SECRET POST #2325 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2325 ⌋

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Comments

Re: It's not the issues that are the problem

[(Anonymous)]

look up false equivalencies?

comparing a starving person stealing food to a person being transphobic is... seriously what were you even trying to accomplish there? would you say you totally understand why some nazis tortured and murdered jews? or why some people were okay with lynchings? those are more level equivallencies. 'oh I see why someone would feel that way' is not okay if the thing you're saying you can grasp and conceive of is bigotry

Re: It's not the issues that are the problem

[(Anonymous)]

"would you say you totally understand why some nazis tortured and murdered jews"


Yes. I understand that some of them truly believed Jews were not considered people, or that killing Jews served some "greater good." I do not agree with them at all, and I will not say what they thought were okay.

"I see how you think or feel this way" allows the other person to know you've thought about their point of view. Then you start discussing why they arrived at their point of view and why your point of view makes sense. Saying "you're wrong!" from the get go rarely works in making people listen to your point of view.


You can say "I understand what you're feeling" /and/ "it is not morally okay to feel this way" at the same time. They are not opposites. They are two different things.

Re: It's not the issues that are the problem

[nyxelestia]

would you say you totally understand why some nazis tortured and murdered jews? or why some people were okay with lynchings?

I do, actually. It's high school history, right there.

I mean, there's a reason why so many of us invest so much energy in stopping anti-semitism and racism today, y'know? Why are we all sitting around here poking every piece of media with -ism and -phobia sticks? Oh, right, all the propaganda that facilitated the horrific scapegoating that ended with all the murder. And why was this scapegoating needed? Oh, hey, look, systemic economic disparities! (I could continue on, but this can take a while and tracks through thousands of years of history).

We understand these are the roots of the Holocaust and lynchings, and that is why we know to address these issues and stop them before they can end in such tragedy again.



(Also, maybe you should try looking up 'analogy' before you tell people to look up false equivalencies.)

Re: It's not the issues that are the problem

[(Anonymous)]

If horrifying thoughts and behaviors were so utterly alien and difficult to get our minds around then we wouldn't suffer so much from them since they'd be limited to a tiny subset of the human population.

Re: It's not the issues that are the problem

[(Anonymous)]

You misread a quote. Instead of flailing around and insisting that the mistake is with the post (which everyone else understood), maybe just go "Oh, I guess," next time. You will look like 95% less of a jackass.

It is a huge part of the curriculum at German schools to make people understand how and why nazism could happen. So yes, all German kids now understand why nazis did what they did. Does that mean all German kids now condone it?

Fuck you.