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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-16 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2326 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2326 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
My main complaint with that movie was how blah the dreamscapes were. It's like...did anyone making it actually ever have a dream?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
This. My dreams are way more batshit even on the calmest of nights. The subconscious doesn't tend to do coherency very well.

You get why they did it - again, the subconscious doesn't do coherency very well - but they could have at least blurred setpieces and transitions into each other more, thrown in a bit more random teleportation (you never go anywhere the normal way in dreams - usually you're just there where you weren't a second ago), stuff like that. Had some random props in corners because your brain tends to throw shit in at random when you're dreaming, have things in the backgrounds of shots be a little off, etc.

I know they were trying to highlight the potential confusion between dreams and the real world, but for most of the movie we're explicitly and definitely in a dream, and after Cobb tells Fischer he's dreaming not even the characters are unaware of it. They could have affored to go a little nuts.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the settings aren't as batshit insane as dreams can be, but I always sort of saw it as a way for the characters to ground themselves in the dreams. By creating an environment that was boring and followed the physics of reality, it would be a lot easier to foresee any possible dangers and counter them appropriately. I think it would've been a lot harder to steal subconscious secrets if there was a possibility for purple kangaroos with laser eyes to suddenly hound them.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah I get why they did this, I just wish it hadn't all been so brown and grey, and maybe just had weirder scene transitions or something.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-05-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
There's some canon basis for that - all the dreamscapes we see were carefully constructed by lucid and trained dream architects, either Cobb, Arthur, Ariadne, or Eames. An architect's job is to ensure the dream is as blah as possible so as to keep it under control, because once the subconscious grabs hold of things - like when Cobb summoned a train to come barreling through a downtown city - it can get nasty. Even Limbo had been shaped by Cobb and Mal's minds. So we never get to see a wild dream, only bits of coordinated dreams going wonky in small stages. Much more boring than a properly surreal dreamscape, yes, but I think they at least covered their butts on that front with the story.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it made sense because the dreamscapes were explicitly supposed to have been constructed by an architect, who was trying to get in there and complete a mission and get out, so they'd want to keep it as straightforward as possible. Still, when they got to actual incepting time and Cobb's subconscious threw a train into the middle of a street, I didn't realize that at first and was delighted that Cillian Murphy's brain seemed to be reacting like a REAL dream and just throwing shit out there. (on a similar note, when I thought about it afterward I was also a little disappointed that when he realized he was in a dream and his subconscious started attacking the team, it only did it with something as basic and boring as guys with guns. That could have been some all-out surrealist shit. It could have been, idk, velociraptors!)