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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-23 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2333 ]


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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Those people who are "so bad off" can communicate. Grunting and grabbing at things is communication. Hand flapping, rocking, echoing other people's speech - those are all methods of communication. Verbal communication should not be the sole indicator of someone's ability to understand others.

(Also, the majority of nonverbal autistics can in fact communicate fluently when given the opportunity to do so. But most people don't bother to teach an autistic kid sign language, or give them a keyboard or AAC device.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
DA.

So what you're basically saying is that nonverbal autistic people shouldn't be "cured", that they should be left to grunt and grab things by way of (ineffective) communication, because of...your pride?

It's wonderful that they can find ways to communicate regardless of being nonverbal, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And THIS is coming from someone who was born deaf.

No, I don't feel shame that I can't hear. The deaf community is amazing, and being deaf makes you experience things in ways the hearing can't even begin to comprehend. But given the choice I'd rather be able to hear, thanks. I'd rather not be so "different". I'd rather not have put my family into debt countless times because they had a hard time paying for my special education, and countless tutors, and so on. I'd rather NOT have to carry a pad and paper with me because in cases of emergency I can't communicate with anyone who can't sign.

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
What I'm saying is that people should learn how to understand nonverbal communication, instead of deciding that people who can't communicate verbally are beyond help.

Autism isn't the problem. Society is.

(Also, if you were suddenly able to hear, that's all that would change. You wouldn't process all sensory information differently. You wouldn't process information differently. You wouldn't be an entirely different person if you were hearing.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
autism IS A PROBLEM

everyone is not you so shut up

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
...did you really just tell a deaf person they would process information exactly the same as a hearing person? Right after they talked about how being deaf makes you experience things that hearing people don't?

Look, your autism experience is your own. But it's not everyone else's who is autistic and it certainly isn't anyone who is hearing impaired so you should probably not make those statements except for the ones you're qualified to make (i.e. your personal views).

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-24 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
autism gives them insight into every other disorder in addition to every incarnation and level of autism though don't you know?

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[personal profile] baxaronn 2013-05-24 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
You're right. I shouldn't have told someone with a condition I'm unfamiliar with how they would feel about something. I apologize.