[ SECRET POST #2335 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2335 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

I do like the smell of cigarette smoke, and I still have to agree (at least partially). It is not OK to do this.

On the other hand, if we're not talking about asthmatics alone? In big cities objecting to having a smoker around you makes little sense. The air is polluted as it is, this cigarette is not going to change anything.

And my favourite mathematician used to smoke during the lessons, because he went as a volunteer to a high radiation area and his legs would ache horribly every now and then. From the point of view of the law it was fifty shades of wrong, but we did not object. And I am pretty sure I wouldn't like it if a student would force him into dropping this habit (unless the student in question would have a medical condition and no opportunity of transferring to our second Maths teacher).

[oftheark]

In big cities objecting to having a smoker around you makes little sense. The air is polluted as it is, this cigarette is not going to change anything.

Have to disagree. I live in a big city and I have the same sensitivities to cigarette smoke as the anon above and yes, it makes a difference. Because we are so sensitive to it we can tell when someone is smoking within about 15 feet of us. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to move upwind or just away from someone because I didn't want to risk getting a migraine.

[dreemyweird]

Yes, but I think it qualifies as a ~medical condition? It does affect you immediately on a physiological level.

[oftheark]

You said that cigarette smoke wouldn't make a difference milling around with all the other air pollution in a big city. That's not the case to people who are overly sensitive to it. And I suppose it's a kind of medical condition, though I doubt I'd get any kind of diagnosis for it, but you didn't qualify that part of your comment that way.

[dreemyweird]

Um, sorry. Must've worded poorly. What I meant to say was "for people with no medical conditions it makes little sense", not "it doesn't make sense at all". It seems that the author of the previous comment meant general health damage, such as the increasing probability of getting cancer tumours.

It sure sucks in case of allergy/hyper-sensitivity, but then many people are allergic to flower pollen, and it isn't a sufficient reason to prohibit carrying flowers around. Perhaps the only way is to ask them to stop in every individual case, and if they do not agree to - then they're a dick.

[oftheark]

Well, I don't ask them to stop or anything because they're outside and so long as they're not in a smoke-free zone they're free to do so. That's why I move. I'm also thankful I live in a city where outside is about the only place left people can smoke in public.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, please. Flowers don't give you cancer; they make your nose run, sneeze, and maybe give you headaches. There is no excuse for smoking in public. At All. I don't give a damn about how addicted smokers are to their nicotine. i don't smoke and it smells nasty and secondhand exposure may give me cancer. The only place they should be allowed to smoke is in the privacy of their own homes.

[(Anonymous)]

On the other hand, if we're not talking about asthmatics alone? In big cities objecting to having a smoker around you makes little sense. The air is polluted as it is, this cigarette is not going to change anything.

This is a common one from smokers who try to downplay their smoke. Which makes no sense because they are only adding to the pollution in the immediate area, affecting everyone in that small area of concentrated pollution, I,e. bus stop where the affected do not always have the option to move away.

Smokers may not realize how far their smoke can carry. In some buildings smoke can come up from the first floor balcony and into a third floor balcony, forcing the person on the third floor to shut their windows if they want to keep the smoke out of their apartment. I have to deal with this.

Then there are smokers who flip their butts out of their car window and it ends up in the car behind them. This has happened to me. Very nasty.

There are reasons why some places have restricted or outlawed smoking in public, and they are very good reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

My asthma actually also settled a bit after moving from the country to the big city - although I guess German cities look hella good for air in international comparisons because everything is freaking green.

One kind of pollution is not like the other.

Smoking at a bus stop would still be a dick move even if asthmatics weren't a factor though; it fucking reeks, and isn't fun to breathe for passive smokers who are otherwise healthy either.