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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-25 04:12 pm

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F!S Anon Meme (the ??th)


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(Today's post is below.)

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
See all the SJW were angry they didn't get a dark skinned person. It has NOTHING to do with nationality (if it did they would be bitching about a Spanish/Mexican guy playing an Indian character).

And if there were like, "They could pick anyone from a foreign country," friggin Louis CK would qualify.

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I kind of want to see the alternate cut where Louis CK plays Khan.

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
http://i.imgur.com/Y6qdEOu.png

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
But.. that's not quite the same thing?

I mean, yes, people playing other ethnicities has skeeviness potential no matter who's involved, especially once you start getting into using makeup and stuff...

But it's not like 'dark skinned people' get favored in casting the same way white actors and actresses do. Someone like Cumberbatch has far more roles (and a far greater variety of roles) available to him than someone like Montalban, even today. Casting 'anyone from a foreign country' as Khan could still elbow out qualified Indian actors, but the elbowing would be coming from people with a similar degree of opportunities, not from someone who's already a television/film darling.

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
So it is okay to darken up an actor as long as he isn't white (though technically hispanics are considered white)?

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
We're also comparing a movie that came out this year to something that's nearly 50 years old. Back then "eh, s/he's brown, close enough" was actually a step UP, since most media still had White actors playing pretty much every other ethnicity except maybe flat-out Black/African. Nowadays there is NO fucking excuse for Khan to be played by a White guy.

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-25 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Got to agree with Nonny here. Do you know how progressive it was that Lieutenant Uhura, a black female, was shown on the bridge, and not only that, she was (because of the red uniform) shown to be a command-ranking officer (though it wasn't until the movies in the 80s that she actually pulled that rank)?? This was in an era where, in certain parts of the US, people were still getting lynched.

ST:TOS pretty blatantly addressed racism issues without igniting the kind of powderkeg that commenting openly on Uhura's (and, to a lesser extent, Sulu and Chekhov's) presence would have: I refer you to the episodes "Balance of Terror" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield." Especially the last one; there is no commentary AT ALL about racial discrimination...except for the expressions of disbelief on the characters' faces when the main antagonist of the show reveals he's prejudiced against the other one because of skin colour (one alien was black on the right side of his face and white on the other, the other alien was reversed -- and this was why they were chasing each other across the galaxy, trying to kill each other).

TL;DR: Star Trek addressed racism in the only way they could, through the lens of SF. The censors would have pulled it from the air (and very nearly did, as the First Officer in the original pilot was female, even though she was white).

/my thoughts on yaoi

Re: I usually love F!S but sometimes...nope.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
All of this stuff. I have a friend who just doesn't seem willing to admit that race, from a social justice standpoint, isn't about skin color, it's about career options and other issues of how people are treated because of their race. To call Montalban 'white,' beyond being inaccurate from an identity standpoint, it's to say that he had just as many job opportunities as other white guys at the time.
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