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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-25 04:12 pm

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F!S Anon Meme (the ??th)


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(Today's post is below.)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I just think that a power imbalance was never the point. Like, the instances we see on the show are committed by a mob guy, Korra, who tries to solve all her problems with force (and I do agree that THAT should have been explored more) and a guy who just wants power for himself and is using unnecessary extreme force and who had bought out all the other council people. And the mob guy is like, not really a good example? because not all shopkeepers/businessmen are non-benders; The fact that criminals target the weak doesn't speak to who has power in this universe.

Non-benders aren't stated to be poorer by default, and it didn't say anywhere that the council people were all benders-- at least it's not a requirement to get the position, since Sokka was one of the first people in that job, and he stuck a boomerang symbol on the table.

I agree the world-building was very poor and that a lot of things were not clear due to the narrative, but frankly I thought it was pretty clear Amon was, for the most part, fear-mongering. But, most of all, the debate on how oppressed non-benders are is one of the worse examples of slack-tivism I've seen, and this is coming from a non-white person (apparently I have to specify this in this fandom. Gag me).

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
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oh, I'm a different anon btw

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
i get what you mean, especially re: amon, who did make things out to seem much worse than they were

i guess it's just something i could see becoming a major problem if the political situation changed and people with ideas about bender superiority got into positions of power

Korra, who tries to solve all her problems with force (and I do agree that THAT should have been explored more)

i think this was really my biggest problem with everything?

like, she grows up sheltered from the world, used to having people respect her as the avatar and using bending as the solution to everything and she just seems so out of completely touch with reality because of it

and honestly i don't think s1 did anything to change that

bluh i wish she hadn't learned airbending after losing her other bending, and that she hadn't gotten her bending back at the end of s1 because her having to think things through and solve problems without it and actually WORK to get it back would've been excellent development for her character in s2

and maybe she and asami could have become better friends over it since she's the only nonbender korra is close to, idk

(sighs because for all that it was wonderful to see asami not get demonized (by the canon, anyway) for getting in the way of makorra i still think she was shafted)

(although at least she wasn't shafted as badly as poor bolin, who pulled some kind of reverse sokka thing where he went from having depth to being little more than the party's buttmonkey)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
used to having people respect her as the avatar

anon i really don't know where you get that from because the white lotus sure as hell didn't seem to have a lot of respect for her and they're the people who raised her.

seemed more like to me korra's mentality was less, "i'm the AVATAR so that means i can do whatever i want!" and more, "i'm the avatar and that means i have to help people! okay so i broke a couple of things or two but i saved the day!! yeah!"

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
yeah but she gives the impression of never having been punished for the dumb shit she pulls because of who she is

in the beginning she gives off the painful glare of a sheltered kid who came to make it big in the real world and didn't realize that oh whoops i actually get in realy trouble for not following rules oh um i'm not used to this

it died off as things went on and she grew more acclimated to city life, but she still handles most situations largely by throwing the weight of her title around and being all force and no subtlety

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
but she still handles most situations largely by throwing the weight of her title around and being all force and no subtlety

i can't really recall a moment outside of the first episode where she really used her title as the avatar as an excuse for her actions? i mean, yeah she gets involved with the task force and her fight with tarrlok later, but really that's her doing her job. idk maybe i'm misunderstanding you.

and while by the end of the series korra's no epitome of patience, i think she demonstrated it pretty well to a certain extent. she DOES listen to mako and doesn't fight tarrlok and potentially the entire police force in public and goes to tenzin to try to get her friends released the legal way before confronting tarrlok. even then, when she goes to him she just goes to TALK. tarrlok is the one who attacks her, after that she's fighting to survive. when she's kidnapped she sits and focuses on her meditation and gets results. when she gets out and is faced with amon, she turns and leaves because she knows she's in no position to fight. when tenzin tells her to go into hiding, she listens and waits until the united forces shows up (and loses horribly) before deciding to go confront amon. she decides to try to reveal amon as a sham instead of just fighting him, which compared to korra in the first episode is a HUGE improvement. she could have still chosen to fight him with the knowledge of who he was, but she chose not to. she was also totally willing to leave after amon took off his mask, but only stayed when it turned out he had captured the airbenders.

so, yeah, korra definitely demonstrated patience and relied less and less on just punching things for answers as the show went on.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
oh, she definitely improved over the course of things on that front, sure

i just think she's still got a long way to go

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
oh i agree, but i think bryke kind of intended for it to end on a note indicating that this was just a snippet into korra's life and she still has a lot more ahead of her. but that's just how i interpreted the final scene with tenzin myself.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree there's definitely potential for the political situation to turn for the worse (since there's the precedent of the Fire Nation going crazy on superiority over everything, not just bending), just that that's not where the show was headed in this particular situation. And it does make me uncomfortable that some people are so quick to get aggressive about interpretations that don't go along with the power-imbalance angle.

Agree soooo much about Korra's character development. Like, her hotheadedness and sheltering was what caused her inability to airbend, and addressing her short-comings as a level-heade, thoughtful leader would have ironed-out the gaps in the narrative that we saw regarding bender/non-bender relationships.

And it's really weird because apparently s2 is going to deal more with the spirit world and it'd have been a great opportunity for her to explore her spiritual side. I get that when they were greenlit for second-third seasons, s1 was well into production, and I think that that screwed THAT particular aspect. Though it still doesn't excuse how clunky her character development was.

Asami was preeetty much shafted :( her conflict with her dad would have been great to see explored better.

That's... that's actually the best way to describe what happened to Bolin, too. Dang.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
sadly, practically EVERYONE'S character development was clunky, probably for that very reason :(

it's kind of a commentary sad state of the world when i'm happy they bothered to devote any time at all to asami's conflict with her dad

if hiroshi really is coming back next season, i hope they do more with it

(though really i want them to do more with asami and korra because dammit the avatar universe needs more solid female friendships)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-26 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
hiroshi's va confirmed awhile back he did recordings for season 2. also since asami has to run the company and has no idea how i imagine she might have no choice but to visit her dad.