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Probably no one's gonna see this or comment on this because I'm late to the party, but whatever, it's something that's been on my mind since coming back the F!S in the last few months.

I really don't understand the hate a lot of people here have for Tumblr. So it's not like LJ. Is it supposed to be? I've never had any trouble interacting with people or having discussions. Sure, it's not perfect and there are a lot of whiny teenagers and rabid fangirls, but it's not all that. Tumblr is what you make of it, really.

Mine basically boil down to two things: leaving comments and attribution. Tumblr's always had issues with those (even back in 2010) Unless they can make the comment system a little more intuitive and make it more difficult for people to eliminate the names of the original artists.contributors/what have you, I will not sign up for that service.

I use tumblr, but I really hate their attitude that replying to a post with a comment is somehow the worst sin you could ever commit there. Plus SJW people have moved over there.

"sjw people" is redundant

Really? I've never encountered that before. People do get frustrated that you can't reply to them... but there are extensions to deal with that.

And yeah, the SJW are fucking annoying... I just scroll past the posts, and never reblog that shit.

i've yet to come across this attitude in the 2 years i've been on there?

I don't think people hate Tumblr so much as people hate that fandom has moved wholly to Tumblr. There's a difference there.

I really love Tumblr for squee and gifs and excitement and pretty things. But I feel like it's nearly impossible to have discussions or interacting the same way that you can on a site like DreamWidth or LiveJournal. Which is because it's not supposed to be like those sites, it was made for a different type of interacting. And that's what I dislike about it.

I always find it strange that people constantly complain that Tumblr should make discussion easier, when it has been repeatedly stated that it wasn't built for that, and I fail to see how they can even implement the kind of structured, searchable archive that users keep saying they want.

It's like, Tumblr is a triangle piece that people love very much, but they want it to fit into a square hole, and god! Why can't it just have this extra side so that it's actually a square and it'll fit. Can't the manufacturer change it into a square design?! --When, you know, there ARE square pieces, made by other manufacturers, available.

What we need of course is actually a second triangle which, combined with the Tumblr piece, fits the gap. Not sure yet what it would look like, though.

Nah, anon memes often run for a couple days to a week before fizzling out. It's just "nighttime" for most users right now, I think.

I think it isn't so much that people hate that Tumblr exists, but that fandom is moving there. I'm fine in with Tumblr in general, but it's not a platform that I want to use. I can see why people would get resentful of the platform and the people who use it, because they want a different kind of fandom experience that is rapidly becoming less satisfying because the people who'd otherwise participate are moving to Tumblr.

It's kind of like, I don't know, you live in a neighborhood with a bunch of other kids, and there are two empty lots to play in. All the kids used to hang out in one lot and play baseball, but then someone started up a game of kickball on the other one and it got more popular, so now you don't have enough players for baseball. You can still kind of make it work with the kids who are left, but it's really hard not to feel resentful of kickball players and the game kickball in general. In other circumstances, you never cared that kickball existed, but now you perceive it as taking away your ability to play baseball. Which it kind of did.

Irrational, but, you know. Humanity.

This is great explanation, thanks :)

I just wish people would just accept it for what it is and stop bitching about it so much.

You're welcome. :)

I've been guilty of Tumblr-bashing myself, but I did end up visiting over there and not hating it, which made me start thinking about what my deal was. It's just not the kind of fandom experience I prefer, but I think there's probably a little bit of a martyrdom complex going on, too, that leads into this kind of elitism. Sort of like, "Kickball is a stupid game with less complex rules so stupider people can play it! You guys don't even need GLOVES! Ugh, LAME! so come back and play baseball with us please ): ):" I don't know if that's where everyone is coming from, but it seems like a common undercurrent in a lot of the posts I read.

There's also the "I don't understand it, and I don't want to try to understand it, because it's not what I know already, so therefore I will hate it" kind of thinking that I hear about a lot. People who say it's too confusing, even though they've never actually tried it. But yes, there is a definite undercurrent of elitism from hardcore LJers, as if it's not a 'proper' fandom experience because it's not as easy to have in depth discussions. Maybe so many people have ended up there because they don't want that so much.

I get that it's just not for some people, and that's great. I like reblogging stuff and looking at pretty pictures and gifs, and I think the communication level fine. And sure I do bitch about tumblr sometimes, but it's from an "I love it but I hate it sometimes" position.

does it?! oh dear i thought they were for 24 hours then everyone moves on.

/fearing for all the threads I must have abandoned in the past

I think it's just a mark of a different fandom, but honestly, I haven't seen it on LJ even with the people who are still there. Nobody wants to talk about anything anymore; they just want to share really random thoughts, fanart, and videos. That's tumblr.

Tumblr hate is not exclusive here. Every site with a sizable fanbase of anything has a dismissive hate boner for it. Reddit, 4chan, Livejournal, and so on, and there's a variety of reasons including wonky communication.

My own problem, though it doesn't keep me from using it or having fun, is the culture there doesn't give a fuck about crediting/sourcing content, or veracity of claims and quotes and news. It's easy to pass off other's work as your own, or to start a shitstorm or spread ignorance based on hearsay.

Still, I think it's stupid to dismiss an entire site because it's not what you expect or think it should be. It's not as though the site actually replaces any others. It's not impossible to use more than one for different purposes.

But it sort of does 'replace' some of those other platforms in, because especially for new fandoms, it has become the main hub for fandom activity. That's what makes it frustrating - I realise it's built for different purposes, but I still want to do the things I used to do in fandom, and I can't do them on Tumblr, because Tumblr isn't built for them. But I can't do them anywhere else either, because 90% of the fandom is on Tumblr.

Basically, I'm not getting into any new fandoms even though I'm interested in them, because I can't deal with the way Tumblr works. It's not Tumblr's fault, it wasn't designed for the way I like to do fandom, but I'm sad that this is what fandom is now.

anon let me recommend you a thing

skype text chat

it's how i do most of my fandom with tumblr-based fandom

make some friends, ask them to talk more, make a group, invite other people

Haha, thanks for the advice but the problem is that I'm really bad at making friends online. I just don't know how it works, and I never did, and that's why I loved communities - you didn't have to be bffs with anyone to be able to participate in fandom discussion! They allowed me to hang around with a bunch of acquaintances and discuss fandom in a group rather than one-on-one.

Also with Tumblr, I don't even know how to find interesting people to follow, because it seems that the people whose stuff is actually interesting don't post in the fandom tags. The only people I follow on Tumblr are ones I'm in an LJ community with (this is an older fandom), and I don't think I'd ever have found their tumblrs just looking at fandom tags.

I'm not even that old, I swear, I just DON'T GET IT.

I've just recently started trying to figure out Tumblr after resisting for ages, but my newest fandom is almost exclusively over there so I felt I had to. It's not quite as confusing as I initially thought, but I really miss LJ-style comment threads. Also, I don't know anybody there and I feel like I'm older than a lot of Tumblr users, which makes me feel like the awkward great-aunt trying to be down with the kids...

I use Tumblr every day - if I have an idle moment I'm probably flicking through my dash checking for new pictures.

I NEVER use it for any fandom-related purposes, unless finding gifsets could be said to count. It just doesn't work for me.

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