[ SECRET POST #2337 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2337 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom's always been that way, but it does seem to be increasing the last few years. There is nothing wrong w/personal preference at all. You just need to take into account WHERE you're expressing that opinion and HOW you're expressing that opinion. Be careful of the language you're using to express your opinion.

Unless the author has asked specifically or said it's okay to leave constructive criticism, don't leave it on their journal or their fic (like on AO3's site). That's just asking for trouble. Some authors don't want crit and will get upset if you leave it and/or if you're commenting that's not a kink of mine on a fic written about that kink, then you're just being an asshole, and people whose kink it is will be offended and you'll be raked over the coals.

Also, OOC is in the eye of the, well, reader and writer. Everyone is going to different (and probably similar) interpretations of the character. I doubt the writer's characterization is going to be a perfect match for your characterization or even the series character, depending on what they're exploring in the fic. Some are widely out of character, that's what the backbutton is for, if the OOC is disagreeable to you (some believe all slash is OOC b/c the series character only dates women). YMMV on this one. Posting about this on the fic/author's journal is not necessary unless they've asked about it.

If you want to discuss it, discuss it on your journal or maybe some general comm that's open to that sort of discussion.

Keep in mind that this a hobby and no one's paying to read or for someone to write the fic you are reading (well, unless it's one of those auctions for charity to raise money--if you won and hated the fic, feel free to go to town then, I guess, since technically you paid for it).

There's different skill levels involved in all areas. Let's say you're learning pottery: you don't expect your pottery to look like someone's who has been doing it for 5-10 yrs or more.

You don't want to harsh/discourage a beginning author or someone who just wants to squee (well, I don't, it's their hobby and their fun, what gives me the right to make it unfun and miserable for them? nothing. I don't have that right, I don't think. A lot of the time, unfortunantely, fandom's the only place I have fun these days and someone harshing me would be not fun at all since it's my only source of fun).

[(Anonymous)]

Written to express what all the precious snowflakes who post fic and only want to be patted on the head and spoiled rotten by only praise feel. What kind of people has our society created?

[(Anonymous)]

This.

If you can't take honest con-crit (read: con-crit, not flames) then you have no business publishing your work anywhere.

I am so tired of all these special snowflakes. If what you wrote makes absolutely no sense, I will say it makes absolutely no sense. I really don't give two shits if you like it or not. Shouldn't have posted your stuff to the Internet, then.

Case in point: An new-ish author in the Teen Wolf fandom wrote a fic where a completely human Stiles was in a coma for three years. He woke up, hopped out of his bed, and immediately started running around in search of his Dad.

I commented that it was highly unrealistic that Stiles would be capable of physical activity to that extent five seconds after he was in a three-year coma, but that otherwise the fic was quite interesting (those were almost my exact words), and the author sent me a message telling me to take my flaming and shove it, that she didn't need my criticism. What was worse was that some other people decided to add their unwanted two cents in and demand I leave the poor author alone.

Fucking snowflakes.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

If you post something in public, you're opening yourself up to the public's opinion and not all of it is going to be positive. You're not entitled to only positive reactions to anything you produce. Have these people never taken an art or writing class in their lives? I'm guessing not because one of the things you learn in those is that there is always something you can improve about your work.

If asspats are all you want then keep it to just your friends.

[(Anonymous)]

If you can't manage to take any sort of criticism on your fanwork, then you really have no business publishing it or posting anywhere. That's not to say that you should take ALL criticism as gospel, or that people don't need to be polite or constructive. But anyone who is writing consistently should WANT to receive feedback for the sake of improvement - although I'm starting to think that people may not want that, given to fic rife with errors due to lack of beta reading...

[(Anonymous)]

well for me to be honest, I gladly accept suggestions to improve (and have gotten many good albeit harsh ones that helped my writing. I've gotten quite a few that bruised my ego at first but then helped me get loads better). When I ask for reviews I want constructive criticism , something that serves a purpose or intention to help me improve (and now "just stop writing" doesn't count :P).

But if someone comes in with no intention to help me improve and thinks I should just delete the fic and that I shouldn't have posted it or generally just doing nothing but being rude, I have no problem telling them to take their whining and bitching elsewhere because I really don't care.

There's a difference between taking crit and taking crap. I'm not saying people should be forced to be polite. They have the right to free speech and all. I just have the right to not take them seriously if they can't express themselves as anything other than a foul-mouthed angry adolescent.

Way too often I see people leave shit reviews that could have gone a long way for helping if they were written and worded better and then sit there and bellyache about how everyone's so sensitive. I have also seen writers who seriously can't take crit. Both sides are about the same frequency imo.