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⌈ Secret Post #2339 ⌋

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Comments

[childings.livejournal.com]

I think it sort of makes sense for teenage girls to prefer maybe not "less masculine" men but less assertive, more passive men because that's when you're first discovering and asserting your sexuality, and for straight women at least it can be scary in your younger years dating more assertive or more physically imposing men. You haven't had as much experience and you don't really know what to expect, and there's also the real fear of violence, sadly (though realistically even a "wimpy" or "sensitive" guy could rape or beat you).

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I agree. I think it makes sense for girls to be drawn to boys/men who are attractive but not particularly sexually threatening. There are always going to be exceptions, of course. Also, it's only fair to point out that a guy doesn't need to look hyper-masculine to be tough and manly - consider the elves in the LotR movies.

Personally, I liked more boyish, less masculine guys when I was younger, and more masculine guys now. A large part of that, though, is that I like guys close to my own age and it's not that easy for a dude in his 30s to pull off the whole bishonen look. At the same time, I like slash more now than I used to (although I prefer it with relatively mature, masculine guys).

[childings.livejournal.com]

Like I said, I don't think this is universal but also not all that uncommon. That's one reason I get initially defensive of pop idols like Bieber or the Jonas Brothers (though I can't defend everything they say and believe, but that's partially because they have this annoying conservative wholesome image to uphold). The whole point they exist is so teenage girls have some outlet to express their sexuality that's acceptable, and I think that's basically what slash/yaoi is to a lot of teenage girls, which might be why some people think it's a phase most women grow out of.

[(Anonymous)]

I can see the argument for the safety appeal. As you wrote below, it is a big part of the male pop idol appeal to teenage girls. And honestly, many teenage boys are obviously going to be softer, less hairy, etc., than full grown adult men, so it may also be the familiarity of that look to teenage girls. I remember thinking men in their late twenties looked so old and weird when I was 15 or so, so finding that attractive didn't really make sense to me.

I think the observations become gross when they start to play on the Real Man tropes and ignore that real live people are attracted to very, very different things. So the stereotype of certain BL/slash fans' preferences becomes a way to perpetuate the "alpha" vs. "emasculated" dichotomy, or the "silly teenage girl" vs. "grown-up with real grown-up sexual desires" dichotomy.