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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-29 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2339 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2339 ⌋

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(frozen comment)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Rape by deception. The woman has the right to know what she's getting into, and the male has the duty to disclose this information beforehand. This isn't new people.

(frozen comment) Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Both parties are consenting.

After the sex, they talked. She said he was amazing. He said it was his first time BEING WITH A HUMANOID. He did mention having Changeling sex via the Link, an experience SOME MIGHT CONSIDER SEXUAL. Their exchange went like this.

ARISSA
Wait a minute... are you saying
you've never been with anyone
before?

ODO
Not a humanoid. Once, on my
homeworld, I had an experience
that you might consider sexual.

ARISSA
But you've never been with a woman
before?

ODO
Could you tell?

ARISSA
No.

ODO
(smiles)
Good.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-05-30 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
After the sex

That is the crux of the matter, for me. When it's too late for her to do anything about the rape that has just occurred.

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Guess what? After that little scene, they made out and probably had sex again, so they were both consenting.

You lose, SJW.

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
The victim is the only one who get's to decide if she feels violated or not. It doesn't change the nature of the act.

A man who holds a woman down and has sex with her without checking that she want's to have sex or not is a rapist. Weather he has committed a rape at that specific point is down to the woman to decide, if she feels violated or not.

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
pretty sure a woman who starts making out with the dude she just sexed is not "feeling raped." Also, making rape subjective like that hurts rape victims by making rape impossible to clearly define.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

(frozen comment) No no no

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-05-30 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
It means she was OKAY with the rape. But that's what happened still.

(I seriously am not trying to offend any of the people in this thread who have talked of horrible things happening to them so know that line above was dripping in sarcasm as opposed to me trying to fan flames)
Edited 2013-05-30 01:00 (UTC)

(frozen comment) Re: Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
troll harder
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

(frozen comment) Only responding for the funny realization.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-05-30 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Since she didn't disclose she wasn't a virgin, she raped him back.

Obviously the only solution was for him to arrest the both of them. Then break themselves out.

Also, you now realize that tons of women actively enjoy rape not only in stories but hearing about it in real life by this definition.

(frozen comment) but noodly

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
only WOMEN can be raped. MALES enjoy ALL sex far too much to EVER not want it. 100% of the time, in fact. Also men dont' care about anything but getting it in and even if the woman turns out to be the murderer of their best buddy and also their own mom, that probably doesn't count because HE IS A MALE SO HE MUST HAVE ENJOYED IT 100%.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

(frozen comment) Actually, come to think of it...

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-05-30 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Odo isn't male or female. Horray! He didn't have to reveal shit cause he's not in the binary double-standard game!

I fixed it! Everybody can enjoy it again!

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I could see if this was in a situation where there was a chance that someone could be carrying an STD, but that probably isn't the case here.

If I had sex with a guy without telling him I'd never had sex before, (as long as he consented) it wouldn't be rape.

He might not even know the difference and not even find out unless I told him. Knowing EVERY SINGLE TINY DETAIL about one's sexual history isn't necessary for consent. It's not like she's consenting, but he hasn't disclosed that he has AIDS or anything.

(frozen comment) Hurrrdurr

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Odo isn't even humanoid. Why are you bringing real world stuff into a scifi secret thread?

Odo is a puddle of jello in his natural state. I don't think he can catch or transmit STD's, nor could he get a woman pregnant because zomg no sperm.

He could shapeshift a female body and have hot lesbian sex. Is he a rapist for not disclosing that he shapeshifted tits and a vagoo and romped with a hot lesbian dabo girl in Quark's bar?

Geez. SJW people need to get over themselves.

To me, rape is someone ignoring a NO to sex and forcing sex anyway, or having having sex with someone who can't consent due to being drunk/drugged/otherwise unconscious. Past sexual history has nothing to do with it. Full stop.

(frozen comment) Re: Hurrrdurr

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
na

the anon you are replying to doesn't even think it was rape, what is with your weirdly aggressive reply

(frozen comment)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
When I had sex with my boyfriend for the first time I was slightly nervous about the whole thing because I had been raped previously when I was younger and I hadn't told him about it at that point in time (though I later did). Did I rape my boyfriend because I didn't disclose this information and he had the right to know what he was getting into before having sex with a rape victim?

(frozen comment)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
You are not a rapist and no one in their right mind thinks that. What happened to you is unspeakable and I am so, so sorry that it happened. Who you choose to disclose the violence that was done to you to and when and under what circumstances is your own choice that should made with regards to what is best for you.

I'm the anon who posted about being raped a few minutes after you posted your comment. I apologize if my wording isn't particularly coherent; troll or not, the anon we replied to upset me greatly and I am still very shaken by the very idea idea, real or not, that they've put forward.

(frozen comment) No.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I've been raped and I've had consensual sex. I did not tell one of my partners I'd been raped and by your reasoning, this means I turn raped him. I AM NOT A FUCKING RAPIST. You really need to learn what rape is. I'm sure you think you're doing a good thing here and speaking out against rape but YOU ARE NOT. You are trivializing REAL RAPE and you need to fucking stop right now.

(frozen comment) Re: No.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
SA And i'm sorry for my language but I am so angry right now that I am literally shaking and hyperventialllating. I cannot rememebr the last time someome besdies my rapist made me this angry.
lex_antonia: (Default)

(frozen comment) Re: No.

[personal profile] lex_antonia 2013-05-30 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Whether they're trolling or being serious, they're bloody awful.

(frozen comment)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I find it interesting that you say "woman" and "male." Should not the corresponding term to woman be man? Isn't that dehumanizing, or does that argument only apply when a woman is referred to as "a female"?