[ SECRET POST #2341 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2341 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[David Mitchell]


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02.
[Carry On]


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03.
[Jay and Silent Bob]


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04.
[Simcity Societies]


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06.
[Game of Thrones]


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07.
[Game of Thrones]


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08.
[Noel Fielding]


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09.
[Once Upon a Time]


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10.
[Doraemon]


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11.
[Uninhabited Planet SURVIVE]


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12. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Into Darkness]



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13. [SPOILERS for Arrow]



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14. [SPOILERS for Naruto]



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15. [WARNING for pedohpilia]

[Neon Genesis Evangelion]


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16. [WARNING for ]



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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/OMxzqym.jpg?1
[Carry On]

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know this in particular, but I know the old comedy problem -- sometimes not-even-that-old! Monty Python -- there's the blackface, but I really cringe every time they mention China or Japan, (and of course the sexism but since I'm female I don't feel guilty about letting that slide). The Muppet Show -- better on race as such, but depiction of different cultures is really painful. MST3K -- will you stop with the gay jokes! Please!

[(Anonymous)]

MST3K isn't a case of old comedy syndrome, they'd probably do the same thing today. Mike Nelson is a pretty hardcore rightwinger.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't tell me these things! :'-(

[chardmonster]

You have an odd definition of "hardcore."

[(Anonymous)]

Ya know it's possible to be politically conservative and socially liberal. :\

Hell there's gay Conservatives out there.

[(Anonymous)]

I always wince when MST3K lets a "You are so GAY" fly. It's the reason I don't recommend the show to anyone. It tended to fly past me at the time because it used to be more common to throw that around as a mild insult.

[thezmage]

MST3K: Joel was gay

[insanenoodlyguy]

I'm with your dad honestly. You get wrapped up in things, especially past things, and their problems, you'll have a lot of great things you can't watch.

But in your case, you didn't like them anyway. No reason you can't just be honest about that without it turning into a fight. Just be all "I never really found this all that funny, still don't" and that's that.

[(Anonymous)]

That's nice for you that you can not "get wrapped up in things". It's not always a choice, depending on experiences.

[(Anonymous)]

You can't always choose how you feel, but that doesn't mean you're helpless. You choose how you react to that feeling and whether you let it control you.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks. It is pretty nice, actually! It doesn't quite make up for real life, but at least it makes it easier to escape it.

[insanenoodlyguy]

You do realize we are talking about old movies the op doesn't find funny, right?

It's not some huge trigger for them or anything, by all indications.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Context matters. You can't view old works through the same lens that you do modern things because the entire world and the general attitudes of the times were different back then. It's good to be aware of the sexism/racism/whatever in them, but there's no point in getting upset about it because that's the way things were when it was filmed.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never found them particularly funny either (though Khyber and Convenience had their moments) and if you know anything about the clashes behind the scenes it's quite uncomfortable to watch, but their appeal to many people is their nostalgia. For many British people the films are part of their growing up and even people like myself - who find the humour a bit childish - have a fondness for them.

Yes some of the humour is problematic from modern standpoints, but even at the time it was fairly low seaside-postcard humour.

[visp]

Khyber was fucking hilarious!

[(Anonymous)]

yeah Carry On has always skeeved me even since I was a little kid

[(Anonymous)]

So, shall we all walk on eggshells around people's pweshus feelings, then, or shall we grow tougher skin and get over it?

[feotakahari]

I haven't watched these movies, so I can't say anything in regards to them in particular. But speaking generally:

Feelings are most certainly pweshus. I would venture that there exists nothing in this world more pweshus than feelings. Feelings are what make people work towards goals and strive to improve themselves, but they're also what cause people to give up trying. A movie, of course, is only a very small part of someone's feelings, but a hundred movies may make up a larger part, and shame related to those movies combines with shame from parents and teachers and schoolmates and bosses and clergy.

I've said before that I don't care about any objective definition of "funny". But speaking subjectively, things that are about mocking and humiliating people who look, talk, or act differently are a relatively small percentage of the types of things various people call "funny". Are they really important enough to need defending?

This is not to say that I'm against criticism, or even outright verbal attacks on things you think are wrong. But unless these movies speak some kind of deep truth, the argument that freedom of speech allows this kind of talk doesn't necessarily imply that this kind of talk is a net good for society, only that banning it would be worse. (Besides, if mocking's okay, isn't it okay to mock the people who find stuff like Family Guy funny?)

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe the unfunny jackasses could grow a tougher skin and get over it when we tell them we're tired of their cliché old racist, sexist, etc. "jokes". Bigots are by far the most emotionally sensitive people I've ever met. How whiny and childish do you have to be to refuse to take any responsibility at all for the disgusting shit that comes out of your own mouth and then start crying about how unfair it is the second somebody else calls you on it?

[(Anonymous)]

It's kind of hilarious that you're so defensive about shitty movies; what's your angle, are you racist or a pedo or both?

[(Anonymous)]

Braumsie, it's less effective if you don't even bother to make an account, geez.

[(Anonymous)]

as I've gotten older

Life is tough when you hit 16. You start using "problematic" with a straight face.

[feotakahari]

I keep seeing the argument that there isn't such a thing as "problematic", and it continues to baffle me. Sure, it's easy to argue that a comedy movie that uses the word "faggot" isn't really problematic, or that a book in which none of the female characters have independent goals isn't really problematic, but can't we at least agree that, say, "A Merry Jest of a Shrewde and Curste Wyfe, Lapped in Morrell's Skin, for Her Good Behavyour" provides a model of what could be called problematic, and that it's at least possible for modern works to be that awful?

[(Anonymous)]

you'd like everyone to stay under 16, huh, creepy movie fan?