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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-01 03:36 pm

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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2013-06-01 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I find these discussions really interesting, because the fact that everyone was so wholly unlikeable is one of the reasons I like that book. It's a shame some people (even adaptions!) don't get the memo though and try to act like Cathy and Heathcliff's love is one of the purest/most romantic ever, as opposed to being really fucked up and unhealthy. Although I suppose even that can be classed as subjective in a way. But yeah, don't really mind that OP didn't like it because even as someone from Yorkshire I found Joseph really hard to read at times (it's such an archaic Yorkshire dialect) so the first time I read it I very nearly gave up purely because of that. So I get it. Also being an English major or a bookworm /=/ loving every "classic" ever.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-01 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ayrt. Yeah, I don't understand it either when people see this book as a great romance. Their relationship is obsessive and mutually destructive, and not exactly something that you should aspire to.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-01 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I do like that she never flinches from how destructive these two people, particularly Heathcliff, are, not only to themselves, but the people around them. I find it funny that Heathcliff is considered such romantic figure because he is definitely one of the most unsympathetic protagonists I've ever read despite how horribly he's treated as a child. His desire for revenge is just so extreme and unreasonable.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
He's the Logan Echolls of 19th century literature, man!
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-01 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I was referring to people who see this as a great romance, i.e. something positive. "I wish that I'd meet someone like Heathcliff, his feelings run so deep."

It might be entertaining to watch from a distance, but I'm going to side-eye people who'd like to have something similar in their lives.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, no offense taken. I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of romantic literature in general, so my knowledge of the tragic, doomed, or happily-ever-after couples of classic literature is a bit lacking. But I'd say that as soon as the relationship starts involving property damage and death threats instead of jealous drama, it's more of an abusive train wreck than a romance. For example, I did like North and South, and Lady Chatterley's Lover was bearable, but I've always found Romeo and Juliet to be on the hilariously over-dramatic high-school level.

Nothing against Jack Sparrow, he's a charming fellow. At least he didn't make twenty-year plans to destroy the lives of everyone who wronged him, including their relatives who hadn't been born at the time.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
but

Jack and Norrington belong together

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I like how you think, Nonny
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I think I'd go for the honourable, badass and more than a little tragic pirate hunter over the crazy pirate with syphilis and more of an obsession with his boat than he'd ever have with me.

But then I've got this thing for 'honourable and more than a little tragic'.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I see your point, but on the other hand, Wuthering Heights is the Twilight of its generation. It's bound to annoy some people even if it's considered a classic. Shit, who knows, maybe in a hundred years Twilight will be the futuristic equivalent of Jane Eyre.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I always compare Wuthering Heights to Twilight when people bring up the argument that Twilight's romance is bad for teenage girls. I spent a good deal of my adolescence madly in love with Heathcliff with no ill effects, and Edward Cullen is a freaking bunny rabbit compared to him.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
I also feel really sorry for the poor brother! I liked the version they did on the BBC a couple of years ago where Burn Gorman played him and you could really see how damaged he was. Of course they are all horrible, especially Heathcliff.