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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-02 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2343 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-03 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. If other people can do poly, that's great, but I know that I personally could not do a poly relationship. I'd rather break up and let the other two be together. For me, it would be easier and cleaner in the long run.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-03 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. Consensual polyamory will never be a thing because that's how we are (even if a part of us likes it).
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[personal profile] rapunzelita 2013-06-03 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. That's kind of insulting. I understand it not working out for you, and that's perfectly fine, and I can also definitely agree with the idea that our society does not do anything to help people who might be interested in being in an open relationship. But saying that it will NEVER be a thing? That's taking it a bit far. How do you know what will happen in the future? Maybe we'll build societies that are more accepting of the idea that attraction and love works in many different ways, and that being attracted to two people at the same time is neither a crime nor a tragedy.

I have plenty of friends who do or have done polyamory. It works out just fine for some of them, it didn't for others, but it is definitely A Thing, whether you want it to be or not. It doesn't have to be anyone's Thing, of course. But it does exist and it is possible.

Besides, if that's not "how we are", why is it that we can experience attraction of other people when we are in a (healthy, happy) relationship? (And yes, that is a thing that happens with many people.) Clearly if "that's not how we are", then we shouldn't experience that at all. And clearly, if we do experience this, then we should do our best to be open about what we want, instead of suffering in silence.

Basically, I will have my cake and eat it and I will not apologise for it. And my boyfriend will have his cake, and he will goddam eat it if he wants to, and that is great too. It's not easy all the time, but it is definitely A Thing.
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[personal profile] rapunzelita 2013-06-03 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
(Also thank you for basically saying that my consent is not a thing.)
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[personal profile] rapunzelita 2013-06-03 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
That's because that's not necessarily how poly works. It doesn't necessarily imply everyone sleeping with everyone, or moving together, or having a poly group. It just means everyone being open about what they want and need from their partner(s), it can also mean having an open relationship with a primary partner. It's not so much "oh you want to sleep with that other person? Yay let's all have an amazing orgy and never have anything go wrong!", but rather "Huh, you're attracted to someone else. Well, we can see how that goes, I suppose." Instead of it immediately being "OMG I am really attracted to Bill but I also love my husband Bob and I must choooose ANGST ANGST ANGST". (I remember a particularly annoying example I think in the first (?) season of the L Word, when the main, most stable couple ends up breaking up because one of them is really attracted to another woman and ends up sleeping with her. Otherwise their relationship was pretty ok, though of course it being the L Word it's all very dramatic. That's the kind of example in which even a discussion of the possibility of having an open relationship would have been welcome.)(Note, I saw this a very long time ago, but I don't remember there being much of a discussion. I may be wrong.)

Of course, adultery happens for a huge variety of reasons, and most of them are related to people being unhappy in a relationship; and some polyamorous relationships CAN be unhealthy and abusive. I'm not saying that it would solve everything to everyone's satisfaction all the time, but I do think it's an untapped resource for plot and drama that would add a bit of innovation to the old adultery trope.

(And as far as the huge chunk of people finding polyamory unappealing for themselves, I'm sure a huge chunk of the population would rather not be cheated on, either. I'm not saying it should be the solution each time, just that it would be interesting to see at least some TV shows explore it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Just like everything else.)