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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-05 06:43 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-05 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I've outgrown my snarky, moody teenager ways, but I still love Daria. Not to worry though. To each their own.

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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-06-05 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the show is bit too much of a snapshot of 90's teens to ever age well.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-05 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
When it was airing and I was her age, it was hilarious.

Today in my 30s? She annoys me.
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[personal profile] nan 2013-06-05 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I recently attempted to rewatch it and I was like "omg shut Daria" so. Yeah. I'm with you, OP.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-05 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this way about the music I listened to as a teen. Blink-182 comes to mind. Angry songs bitching about the system and teenage angst? Perfect for a jaded teen. Not so much for a slightly less jaded and more educated adult.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-06-05 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
When did something being indicative of a certain time and place mean it didn't "age well?" I mean I understand being annoyed at the sulky teenagers but it's literally meant to be watched by sulky teenagers.

You know what also didn't age well? Seinfeld. I mean it's clearly taking place in the nineties and those people are assholes.
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[personal profile] angrymermaids 2013-06-05 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'll always like Daria, because she's one of those characters that made me go "holy shit, this show gets me." Not in a teenagery "waaaah no one understands me" kind of way, but in a more intimate way that I don't really know how to describe. And that just sounded super cheesy.
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[personal profile] transcription_guy 2013-06-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
(Pic of Daria from Daria)

I don't think this show, or her general character archetype, has aged well at all. Maybe it's because I'm no longer a sulky teenager myself but I feel like the snarky bag of gloom thing has been done to death.

SB everyone I know still adores it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-05 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I never watched it, which is too bad because I actually think Daria would have been my hero. But at the time she was almost too close for comfort? It wasn't like I didn't know what Daria was, everyone my age knew. Well. Every antisocial nerd my age.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure it's been done to death, but it hadn't been done to death back when Daria was on the air. Therefore, people still like Daria. It takes you back to when it was fresh and allows you to recapture and enjoy the trope in its early, non-tired form.

Of course, that's assuming you're the type of person who can easily adjust for period and enjoy old things that you wouldn't if they were made today. Not everyone can.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
i only still like her. all the other sulky teenage shit, bands, etc. i cannot stand but i still love her even if i don't agree with omg everything like i did in my teens
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-06-05 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed it and I like that it's dated. I was a little bit shy of high school when it first aired (I think I was 8th grade or something) and watching it now just reminds me of the 90s. Also IIRC the whole point of the show as it progressed was that Daria was too cynical and it was negatively affecting her life. And there are other characters that are likeable (Jane and Trent, etc)
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[personal profile] tamabonotchi 2013-06-05 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't think of any characters that come close to how deadpan she was.
I really enjoyed it, but the show is set in a specific time period where it looks aged anytime afterward.
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[personal profile] bigredhug 2013-06-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't resent the 90s for being the 90s, that's just silly.
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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-06-05 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha for me it was the opposite. I didn't like the show as a teen (I thought it was boring) and now that I watch it as an adult, I actually enjoy it and think it's pretty clever. They really got the teen outcast vibe from Daria and Jane to a T.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-06-06 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoy it differently these days. As a teen, she was everything I wanted to say, especially on my grouchy days. As an adult, I see a lot of her actions as absurd or whiny, but intentionally so. I think she's a well-written moody teen, and especially toward the end of the series, you can see her starting to grow into the adult she's going to be. It's still a very poignant, sincere show.

Then again, I have no problem enjoying dated shows.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't watch the show until college (~2007) because I wasn't allowed to watch MTV when the show originally aired. -_- But I loved it, not just because of Daria but for all the other characters who play off her. So I disagree that it hasn't aged well... but sometimes we grow out of things.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, if you don't like it, it's your opinion. I won't hold it against you.

I personally still do like it very much. I do agree that at times it can feel pretty outdated at times, but it doesn't take away any qualities the show had to me. It exaggerated a lot of things, but the exaggeration was to highlight shit that we ourselves have seen happen in our own lives, such as the heavy favoring of sports in high school over education. Perhaps it wasn't always like that at my high school, but there were times where I felt like my high school went out of its way to do something for the football team while in the middle of a budget cut teachers and students couldn't print out too many copies of paper or we couldn't get updated books in government class.
Even characters who at first seemed shallow and a stereotype became kind of relate-able, for example, Quinn. When Quinn realizes that her PSAT scores were in line with the rest of the Fashion Club it was kind of a wake up call to her that she wasn't trying very hard and though she wasn't smart she at least knew she wasn't as vacant as the rest of the Fashion Club, but the test scores proved that perhaps Quinn was just as vacant as them. What does she do? She actually starts trying a little more, slowly but surely deciding that perhaps doing well in school is more important than impressing your peers, especially when the boys pining after her seem to be unaffected by the idea that Quinn had a tutor during summer break or that she scored well on a test.
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[personal profile] saiika_von_maou 2013-06-06 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I never had the pleasure of knowing Daria in my teen years, so I don't know if I would have liked her or not. I'm only in my early twenties now, but I think the "I love Daria" ship has sailed for me. I agree with you. I feel like it's been over-done too.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-06-06 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
The show was very much a product of its time. I watched it recently and definitely didn't find it as hilarious as I did earlier.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-06-06 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't outgrown any of that, I guess, because this show still cracks me up :P

What are the outdated bits?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-06 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Has been a while since I watched the show. I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's dated. (Not saying it isn't, just curious!)

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[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-06-06 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I just always felt like it was kind of forced on me, because hey, I'm a nerdy monotone-voiced introverted girl, and she's kind of held up as an icon for that personality type. But it might actually be a stereotype I'm just to the left of. Because I was never that outright anti-conformist or... I dunno, weirdly principled?

I'd like to see a show about a deadpan weirdo who's laid-back and just kind of completely unconcerned with everyone else, not defining themselves in opposition to them.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I loved daria when i was younger and I recently rewatched it awhile ago and I feel like I could appreciate it even more, mostly because it did set a kind of standard, but there's also a lot of universal themes and tropes that date themselves in a pleasant way. Like, you can tell they're old and they feel nostalgic, but most of them are also still around in other fiction.

Although I also think that the latter half of Daria is what people end up finding relateable than the first. Because even though she's sarcastic and snarky, and even though the show is episodic, one of the best things about is the fact that things change. Life goes on. She changes. Some things stay the same, but she faces having to deal with living life, finding a purpose, believing in herself and making a place in the world in a really realistic and familiar way.

It's why I really appreciated the subtle shift of the later seasons into becoming something more serious as it followed the characters through high school.

Of course you aren't obligated to like it the same way I do, and eventually it will become irrelevant in another generation or so, but for now I still think she's pretty well earned a decent place in pop culture history with enough 'hit or miss' mixed in with a touch of universality to ~age gracefully for just a little while longer.

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