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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-09 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2350 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just a matter of political expediency, though. If it was a show that was full of harsh realism, I wouldn't have an issue with it. The staff doesn't just decide what is politically possible and expedient; whatever position they take (or whatever position the Reasonable Minority Person takes) is usually the position that is, from the point of view of the show, the position that is true, just, and reasonable. The staffers don't just make decisions based on what is politically expedient and possible; they decide when political necessity is the most significant consideration, and when idealism is appropriate, and what kind of idealism is appropriate. They decide when idealism is fine and something to fight for, and when the concerns of others are pie-in-the-sky foolishness that simply can't be achieved, and the show agrees with them - only the views that they approve of, in the form that they approve of them, are reasonable and acceptable. The staff doesn't just judge what is possible; they judge what is acceptable.

I mean, you say it right there - Sorkin tacks moral righteousness onto political expedience. That's my issue, in a nutshell. Political expedience is mostly brought into the picture to justify times when the idealistic positions of people other than the staff have to be dismissed. Alright - that's simplistic, and I admit it, and there are times when the staff also gets too idealistic, but still. I mean, you see where I'm coming from. I don't have any problems with a show taking place on the basis of political necessity (if I did, I probably wouldn't love The Thick Of It as much as I do) and I don't want everything to be a liberal wonderland. I have an issue with the fact that the show continually chooses sides and it almost always comes down on the side of the staff and any issue that is not within the narrow lens of what the Bartlett administration staff approves of can safely be dismissed.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't even watch this show but I love you and your meta-analysis.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
same anon here - wanted to clarify / expand on one thing: I think this dynamic (the combination of expedience and moral righteousness) is something that's present throughout a lot of the show, but I think (in regards the topic OP was talking about) it's especially odious and difficult to watch when Sorkin is dealing with minority issues and representation. It exacerbates an already existing problem.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-14 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
And Sorkin has only gotten worse in that tendency on his tv projects since then. I'm actually a little bit reluctant to rewatch The West Wing now.