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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-09 03:36 pm

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iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2013-06-10 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, you're fine. My feelings about this show are lengthy too. I gots opinions!

I can kinda see L and R coming back together, but it would take a lot of couple's therapy and trust building exercises. They were a great couple (one of my favorites on tv before all the terrible happened) and watching them rebuild their relationship would be hella interesting.

Athelstan's character arc was from wimpy and bookish priest, to Stockholm Syndrome sufferer, to someone who realized that he was surrounded by dangerous people who did not love him or care about him. The writing wasn't the best, but he's still a unique and interesting character. And it's not like he's just a piece of set decoration. He saved R from drowning.

What other scenes got cut? I saw the one with Gyda where he told her about his family. Were there any others? (Do you happen to know if there were any with Leif and Arne? I thought those two characters got the short end of the stick development-wise.)
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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-06-10 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think the show has patience for trust building exercises :P They'll probably be getting their divorce pretty quickly. I just wonder who gets Athelstan!

But yeah poor Athelstan! Anyway I personally side with the popular fan opinion that Ragnar chose Athelstan as an honor: the one he trusted to take his message to the Gods. Just they should have talked about it :\ Because who knows if Athelstan really *understood* the implications of being a sacrifice, in the end? There are so many things that they didn't tell us that we need to know!!
But yeah he DID have a more active role during the middle of the season, before he was shuffled off from character to character as a plot device.

There were a few scenes of him in town, like when he first arrived and the Vikings were gawking at them and Ragnar told them basically to piss off, things like that; and the extended scene of his bathing before the sacrifice suggests pretty clearly that Thyri at least attempted to have sex with him (though I honest to god don't think that could have happened without him having a mental breakdown afterward when you combine it with his almost-being-sacrificed).

*oh, and I don't remember there being anything extra with Leif and Arne... but I didn't really pay attention to them :x
Edited 2013-06-10 02:55 (UTC)
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2013-06-10 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
One gets Athelstan, the other gets Bjorn. They can switch on weekends. I'm hoping they work through it. The actors had good chemistry, and the characters worked well together. If R permanently throws away his marriage for teh *~sexi~* I will be very upset.

That's a good theory and it would have been awesome if they had shown it to us. The fallout from miscommunication and cultural differences like that would be really interesting to watch. They could still salvage it by having R explain why he wanted A to be sacrificed. "You wanted freedom. You wanted to belong to a god. I wanted to make you happy." It's a step towards a repaired relationship and it would put the ball in A's court. How does he respond?

Thryi was another awesome character who got shafted. :( That would have been another interesting pairing. Why would she choose a slave and a foreigner to bring to her bed? How would he respond? Would they last? All that potential gone to waste. A mental breakdown would have been interesting!

Honestly, the way they wrote it makes me think something happened during filming and they had to re-write half the series. I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll salvage the series next season.
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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-06-10 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
hahaha good plan ;) If we're going by history we kinda can predict what will happen between Lagertha and Ragnar...

They still *could* show us what happened after the sacrifice (I'd be fine with a flashback) but I'm not optimistic we'll get it. I have a feeling they're going to want to charge ahead with the story ASAP in season 2.

I hated Thyri, I can't lie xD I feel bad about it, but she just grated on me as a character and it only got worse when she was randomly selected as Athelstan's plot-required partner. I know part of it is that I'm mad that she broke up my ships, but another part is that I just don't like her. And I don't particularly like Siggy either, oops :x (Though I did LOVE the scene where Siggy killed Thyri's husband) So I wasn't sad when she kicked the bucket.

Actually, they DID have to rewrite it later on; when they first started, it was going to be a miniseries, apparently with 13 episodes or something like that; when they were taken on as a series, they ended up only having 9 episodes but with the potential of having more seasons; and then midway through season 1 they were renewed. So I can't blame the writers for having to scramble to create a coherent story.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2013-06-10 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand why Thyri might not be everybody's cup of tea. I personally felt for her and thought she was understandable and sympathetic. Part of it is, again, the wasted potential. You have this character who suffered horribly. How does she grow now that that's over and she's surrounded by strong and intelligent women? How does she function in a society without therapy or much understanding of the trauma of marital rape? Could she become a shield maiden? Policy advisor to L and R? That would be cool. Oh, we're just going to kill her off? Dammit.

And her going after A made sense. If you get out of a terrible rapetastic marriage, you're going to want to make your own choices. And I would guess you would be attracted to a genuinely nice guy, which A is. They're not my OTP ('cause it's not like we got many scenes of them together) but they could've been good together.

Siggy wasn't a favorite of mine either. The backstabbing got tiresome.

Huh. I didn't know all of that. Guess that explains some of the confusion.