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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-10 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2350 ⌋

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Re: tl;dr ahoy

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-11 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
It is not for a show to endorse an issue as good or bad, but simply to display it so the audience can choose to fight the issue or fight the show creator.

You cannot fucking be serious.


No, really. You. Cannot. Fucking. Be. Serious.

You're almost certainly trolling me, but just in case this is Poe's Law in effect:

Excuse me? Endorse an issue as good or bad? An "issue"? You are talking about SEXISM. Sexism is not an issue that it is okay to be moderate about. This is not about war or drug policy or whether high taxes or low taxes are better. Sexism is BAD. There is no such thing as an acceptable pro-sexism argument. It is bad. Period. End of discussion. Show creators have an obligation to fucking portray sexism as bad, because IT IS BAD.

Showing misogynistic stuff in a show and portraying it as totally fine and romantic and not presenting any argument against it is NOT okay. If you do that, it is a tacit endorsement. And by the way? It is the 21st fucking century. If you portray the issue of sexism as neutral -- implying that people who are pro-sexism have as valid an argument as anti-sexism people -- that is even worse than accidentally portraying sexism as an okay thing.

Moffat is not "showing the way". He doesn't think his show is sexist. He is not some master planner secretly conspiring to motivate people to be anti-sexist. If you honestly believe that...well...there are people who totally believe that those two actors on Supernatural are totally in love and that one of them named his newborn baby after the other. So...you're not completely alone?

Re: tl;dr ahoy

(Anonymous) 2013-06-11 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Show creators have an obligation to fucking portray sexism as bad, because IT IS BAD.

Creators have no obligation to pass judgement on any issue. If something exists, then they can portray it as it is. If they have any higher obligation than entertainment it is to create something that is truthful, not didactic.