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⌈ Secret Post #2352 ⌋

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Well I disagree with you about the show - I mean, it has obvious flaws and it's dated and the writing is stilted at times and some of the actors aren't great, I recognize that, but I think it pretty much overcomes those things by having a lot of smart, kickass, interesting ideas.

But the question I really want to ask, I guess, is whether you were just lying when you squeed about it originally, or what? I really don't understand this secret. "I legitimately liked this show, but even at the time, I didn't like it, and I feel embarrassed when people say they liked it!" I mean, what? Like, seriously, what? Your attitude puzzles and intrigues me. Tell me more.

It's totally okay to accept that what you watched in your younger years may or may not have been total crapcakes.

For instance, when I was five I thought the Power Rangers were /the shit/.

Turns out they're just shit, but what did I know? I just wanted to be a power ranger. YOU CAN'T BEAT THESE SWEET MOVES.

yeah sure i can acknowledge that, but not only does OP not mention that, they actually say they thought it was mediocre at the time. right after saying they really liked it and it 'had them hooked'. i'm so confused anymore.

seriously, it's just an odd dissonance. maybe they're saying they thought it was cheesy worthless fun or something, but it doesn't come across in the secret. i'm not saying OP is being unreasonable (well, OP is being unreasonable in not liking B5, because it's great, but you know what I mean), I just find the way they've stated it strange and confusing. i'm curious.

You can be hooked on something while considering that it is poorly written, etc. In the romance community, the JR Ward series is frequently derided but people talk about not being able to keep from reading the books because they're so damn cracky. IE, they have a lot -- a LOT -- of problems but still have people coming back. That's kinda the sorta thing I thought of with the OP's comments.

(Although I totally disagree, unless we're talking about the first season, which admittedly had some super-cheesy moments. But holy shit did it make up for that later.)

Not OP, but I often enjoy things I know are mediocre/terrible at the time. Doesn't mean I'm faking liking them, just that I'm not too big to admit that some of the stuff I like is objectively terrible.

Yeah it's possible. I just don't think that (if it was what the OP was thinking) comes across in the secret and the way it's written is kind of dissonant and strange and makes me curious.

I'm not the OP, but...I think I kind of understand what s/he's getting at from my own personal experience with the show.

I love B5. There's something about it that grabbed me and wouldn't let me go, and I find some of it to be brilliant. However, there are aspects of it that are cheesy as hell, and the production value is terrible. Some of the dialogue and subplots are facepalmingly bad (Dr. Franklin's "walkabout?" What the fuck was that?). So, there's a sort of love-hate relationship going on, where I can praise it and cringe at it in the same conversation.

I was hooked because the over-arching storylines meant most episodes ended on some kind of a cliffhanger, so it was hard not to want to tune in again next week. The storylines themselves or, as was more the case, the execution don't need to be all that great for this to work. As for the squee, it was over pretty fluffy stuff. I just don't know what people were seeing when they talk about it being genius.

Actually, from what I gather, what you've just said is the reason it's considered genius. It was one of the first shows to do consistent, pre-planned storylines that were steadily advanced - a television novel, as opposed to an episodic TV show. The storylines themselves aren't necessarily better than most you'd get with TV sci-fi, it was the way the show was structured that marked it as different.

Soap operas had already been doing that for decades.

Except that Babylon 5 had it's whole 5 year run planned out... while Soap Operas have ongoing plots they're usually not thought out anywhere near that far in advance, they just keep throwing one twist after another to keep the audience from loosing interest.

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