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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-13 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2354 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2354 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kodomo no Jikan]


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[figure skating/Brian Joubert]


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[Stargate: Atlantis/ Sesame Street]


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[K project]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Married...With Children]


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[Homestuck]


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[One Piece]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Pokémon Black & White]


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[Phantom of the Opera 2004]


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[Iron Man 3]


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[Neverwinter Nights 2]


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[Almost Human/Total Recall 2077]


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[Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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[A Bag of Hammers]


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[Without a Trace]


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[Big Bang Theory]


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[The Three Investigators]


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[Team Fortress 2]


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ketita: BBC'S Merlin's Arthur, pouting (arthur - sulk)

Re: Ranting into the void here, I'm sure, but I have got to vent.

[personal profile] ketita 2013-06-14 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
while I get your frustrations, as a fellow language learner, I have to say a few things in their defense.

I know that a LOT of Russians find it really hard to break that rolling R. I know Russians who speak other languages totally fluently and still can't break that R. Just because the proper sound sort of appears in their language doesn't mean they can rewire the brain that keeps going THIS IS A ROLLED R. So it may be that it's just a really difficult accent thing for them to break.
Yes, she may also just be lazy - but she may just really find it hard to break that accent habit. It happens.

ahh, reading the Kanji wrong thing ._. my problem is that I have a horrible auditory memory. So even if I get corrected on a reading, I will literally not remember it five seconds later. I'm sure it makes me sound like a moron, but there's not much I can do about it. (and I studied Chinese and Japanese, so there are too many Kanji I know how to read as Hanzi...). Though, usually I will try and kind of hesitate, knowing that it's *not* that other reading, but I often have to be corrected multiple times on a character I'm not sufficiently familiar with.
then there are all those times I spoke Korean in Chinese class. that was a mess

THOUGH OF COURSE THEY MAY JUST BE LAZY ASSES AND I'M PROJECTING MY LANGUAGE ISSUES
ariakas: (lol hikawa)

Re: Ranting into the void here, I'm sure, but I have got to vent.

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-06-14 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I should give her a pass on the rolled Rs since English speakers find it so hard not to stress syllables in a given word the the point where it's a nearly impossible habit to break, but the Rs are pretty clearly infering with the prof's understanding of what she's saying (whereas the stresses don't).

Augh, but they are corrected multiple times and they still don't cut that shit out. It's probably hard to see a word you see all the time and pronounce it differently, though.

I STAND BY THE "UM/EHM" THING THOUGH. THAT'S THE WORST AND THERE'S JUST NO EXCUSE.
ketita: (Default)

Re: Ranting into the void here, I'm sure, but I have got to vent.

[personal profile] ketita 2013-06-14 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
THE UM/EHM THING IS LEGITIMATE, AND THEY SHOULD CUT IT OUT.

That's the tough thing with accents. Some stuff is just cute and harmless, some stuff really butchers the language. I'm a native Hebrew speaker, and Hebrew is more tolerant of some accents than others. A heavy American accent sounds pretty bad in Hebrew, whereas some of the European accents sound okay. Korean accent is adorable, imo. If her accent seriously interferes with people understanding her, it's probably frustrating for her, too, though.

I mean, yeah, my reading is crap - I'm mostly super slow, I'm just really bad at reading aloud, but I don't um every other word. Also I'm like... barely N3. I'd expect that to improve with time.

In terms of the mistaken readings, I would say, maybe if the same day they kind of forget, I'd expect them to work on it more for the next class or something. It's an excuse only so far, y'know? So it's still pretty frustrating.
ariakas: (Default)

Re: Ranting into the void here, I'm sure, but I have got to vent.

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-06-14 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah it's the same with any language, I think. A German accent? No big. A thick Japanese or Chinese accent can be bruuuuuutal.

The frustrating part about the kanji reading is that it kind of comes off like they don't give a shit what the Japanese pronunciation is, they know the "real" one, so whatever. Also, shit son, if you've studied this damned language hard enough to pass N1, don't you think you could put a little more effort in?