[ SECRET POST #2355 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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36. [WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #336.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

41. [WARNING for RL shootings, death]
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[elephantinegrace]

First, I'm very sorry about what happened to you on both counts. You can recover however you want to, and there are plenty of Avengers fans here. So...do you want to leave the prompt here and see if somebody will take it? We could have our own discussion.

[(Anonymous)]

They have those sorts of rules so that 99.9% of people-- people who have nothing to do with the shooting in question, aren't actively exploiting actual tragedy for stupid fap-fodder. The fact that you are a part of the .1% whom this actually affects does not make the rule stupid or pointless or unnecessary. It just so happens this rule hinders you, that does not indicate an actual problem with that rule.

Seriously, there is a damn good reason rules like that exist. Sorry you ended up on the wrong side of it, but it's always better to play it safe than sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

This, precisely.

[(Anonymous)]

This!

[(Anonymous)]

But even if you're in the 99.9 percent who says you can't want this kind of prompt?

1) If it's a *kinkmeme* then it's not about stuff that's a-okay and shameless. It's about dirty little desires we know may be problematic or embarrassing or simply uncommon, but we want them anyway. Who is it possibly hurting to just want *fic* of a tragedy?! You don't know the reason the person wants it. Don't read if you don't like.

2) You don't have to be in your low percentage of .1% to need comfort or be affected. I've never been raped, but I have great fear of it and love to read post-rape h/c. It's soothing to the negative emotions I feel. So therefore I get positivity out of portrayal of rape. Isn't that exploitation? Yet it's a popular non-sexual kink in fandom and it's hurting no one - again, don't like, don't read.

[(Anonymous)]

Who is it possibly hurting to just want *fic* of a tragedy?!

gee I don't know... perhaps the people EFFECTED BY THE TRAGEDY?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, because it's SO likely that the survivors of a tragedy are going to both

1. Find out about the fic
2. give a fuck about it when they do

Not everyone gets their panties in a twist when someone writes something about a tragic event they lived through.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Concern trolling is about being self-righteous and nosy. Not particularly rational. The people who want to be melodramatic and hyper about the awful harm you might be doing to victims are perfectly happy to ignore the harm they're doing (in many cases, to other victims) by trying to make some subjects off-limits or tightly controlled. It sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

Who gets to make the rules? You?

No. Sometimes it isn't 99.9 who aren't affected by something like this. A traumatic event can affect more people than the first responders, or the victims themselves. Something like a school shooting could happen down the street and someone can get nightmares from it and need a coping mechanism.

This is why people should find out in a civil manner first before dog piling someone for writing or reading fic like this.

da

[(Anonymous)]

You could use the same extension for people who wouldn't want to see fic being written about it. That's why there's the rule. There shouldn't be dogpiling, but it's just way too touchy for something that's supposed to be fun and not remind people of real life tragedies. A more private venue would probably be better.

[shahrizai]

...am I the only person who wishes kinkmemes stuck with, well, sexual kinks? It's like they've just become repositories for any commentfic.

[(Anonymous)]

No, no you are not. I despise the fact that KINKmemes have gen fics and all sorts of stories that don't deal with kinks and sex. I get tired of scrolling through all the non-related actual kink stories (prompts and fills) these days on kinkmemes.

I don't understand if why this allowed, they just don't call them promptmemes or something and just take kink out of the title. Or have promptmemes and kinkmemes both. I like to read non-kink stories, just not on kinkmemes; that's not why I'm there instead of on AO3 or the pit of voles.

[deadtree]

that's the only reason I use them at least

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I go to kinkmemes looking for porn. I have a million other archives and comms I can use if I want genfic.

Let us have our repository of smut in peace, dammit!

[(Anonymous)]

And prompts trying to make people fill it through sympathy are especially icky to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, this would happen on the LJ kink meme? Really? What on earth happened to that place? Because I prompted about Captain America learning about 9/11 on the 10th anniversary and got two really heart-felt, well-done fills.

You should prompt this. The meme might surprise you.

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't marvel themselves release comics about it. I'm sure I saw spiderman helping out at the sights and a disgusted Doctor Doom

[(Anonymous)]

I think it would depend on how you made the prompt. If you posted trigger warnings, and also explained why you want the story, I think people would be more receptive to it. But then again, I don't know if there are any rules in that kink meme that say that you can never post prompts about rl tragedies.

[(Anonymous)]

There are no official rules about this, but the mods will freeze such prompts if other people ask them to, and they always do.

[(Anonymous)]

The only part about this that I find creepy is that it's a KINK meme. Is your kink shootings? That's kinda gross. Is your kink tragedysex? That's still kinda gross. You could easily prompt it without bringing up your personal relationship thus avoiding people making any connection.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I can't speak for other fandoms, but in the Avengers fandom the kink meme is basically a prompt and comment fic meme. At least half the stuff posted there isn't really kinky stuff anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

With you all the way, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

I get both sides of this - I understand wanting to read fic to cope, and I also understand that people might not want to be confronted with the tragedy like that. How about this: if you'd like a (probably fairly short) fic (I assume you're in Avengers fandom!), PM me (forest_rose at livejournal) and I'll write you one. It'd be a private fic, not to be shared on the comms so as not to trigger anyone, but if it'd help you I'd be glad to do it. Drop me a line if that sounds good to you.