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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-14 07:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-15 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't Rochester's redemption sort of... well, imposed by outside forces? I think of redemption as being more internal, with the character in question actively doing things to move themselves on an arc from one point to another. With Rochester, he's not so much trying to redeem himself as he is forcefully propelled by events-- his wife's appearance at the wedding, the fire, etc. He reacts to them, but he doesn't have much agency.

I guess that's why I personally don't have much sympathy for him as a character and I don't particularly like him as a hero. He doesn't do anything particularly heroic.
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[personal profile] nynaeve_sedai 2013-06-15 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's a false understanding of redemption. Many people who experience redemption, particularly religious redemption, have external forces at work. My own husband, who had little interest and experience with religion was spurred towards his own via the death of his father. For another friend of mine it was waking up from an alcoholic haze having lost her job and her family. We are often changed by the reactions we have to our circumstances.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that no outside forces were valid in a redemption arc, but in Rochester's case it seems like that's all there is. I don't get a sense that he's undergone any internal transformation of character; he only seems to regret the dire circumstances that his own actions brought him to.

Whew, sorry for the babble, and thank you for humoring a curious anon. :)