[ SECRET POST #2356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2356 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 134 secrets from Secret Submission Post #336.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Transcription

[(Anonymous)]

well that at least makes more sense than "lol u mad bro"

although i would hardly call someone's ill-advised but well intended efforts a mockery, though i can certainly see how they'd currently be subpar to a lot of people

personally, i find them useful just because there's still a lot of secrets that have difficult or annoying visual themes, but aside from that it occurs to me that i really wouldn't know what a useful transcription would look like

Re: Transcription

[(Anonymous)]

A useful transcription is one that isn't scattered through threads at random and accurately reflects what is going on in the secret. Which is why they really have to be filled out by the submitter and posted either with the picture or in a separate thread where they can be quickly found.

Right now it is worse than useless because of the errors and the randomness. It actually does harm to the transcriptions by making them hard to find, having them after the conversations they are supposed to inform, and often inaccurate. Which is probably why they are being trolled as they are, to raise awareness of the problems and ensure the issue has visibility. If the protest didn't have shock value it would just be ignored and go under the radar.

Re: Transcription

[(Anonymous)]

The placement of the transcriptions has no bearing on its usefulness. Screen readers can locate the transcriptions within the threads first and then read the other comments within the thread from the beginning or any other given point.

Shock value isn't necessary to give the issue visibility. Once the issue was raised via a secret, discussions began and have been primarily civil, earnest, and mature. Trolling the transcriptions isn't an act of protest against oppressors. It's a childish act that serves only to undermine the intent of introducing and improving a system meant to broaden the inclusivity of the community.

Re: Transcription

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

The transcriptions are indeed useful to many people. But those aren't people that need them. It may help generate more discussion for hard to read secrets, but they do not make F!S more accessible to users who rely on screen readers because they rarely identify the people/fandoms depicted. Which is understandable since it's a volunteer or possibly a group of volunteers doing this and they cannot be expected to know every person and every fandom that gets posted here. But the fact remains.

I used the word mockery because even though it is well intentioned, it fails to serve the purpose most times. These are not image transcriptions; they are (mostly) transcriptions of the included text without the necessary context that comes from identifying people/places/logos/fandoms. Not including that vital information alienates users who depend on screen readers. Their ability to participate in discussions for unidentified fandoms is limited to addressing the text without knowing the context.

It's like installing a wheelchair access ramp that's on a 30° incline. You've made a show of making the building wheelchair accessible, but really it isn't. I could put in a lot of effort and maybe make it up the ramp, but I would probably flip over backwards before I'm halfway there.

The current system isn't working. The only way to implement a useful transcription service is to foist more requirements/work on submitters, case, or a designated person/group that will delay posting and discourage people from submitting secrets. If there is a need for it, I'm all for doing what I can to make it happen with a minimum of impact on case, but whatever system is implemented will require more of his time. So far, the only people who have spoken up about the need for image transcriptions are people who assume there are people who need them. That is not the same as actually needing them.

Re: Transcription

[(Anonymous)]

thanks for the explanations!