[ SECRET POST #264 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #264 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:
- With luck, I'll be here when this gets posted, otherwise, first comment goes to name that fandom!

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 82 secrets from Secret Submission Post #038.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [1] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [1] repeat
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Thursday, September 27th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

9 secret-maker

[(Anonymous)]

Yyyeah, my thoughts exactly. Autism is pretty much integrated in my family's life, so it's not like it's a "tabboo" subject for me, nowhere near something that shouldn't be discussed UNLESS YOU HAVE TOTAL KNOWLEDGE AND RESPECT or BS like that; the more people are exposed, absolutely, the better. It's just that it seems once fandom gets hold of it, it becomes something so highlighted and fantastical, so "HE IS" or "HE ISN'T" or "OMG DISRESPECTFUL" or "JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND" becomes the issue; whether people are taking it seriously or being jackasses who diagnose themselves, it all just almost never fails to become fucking ridiculous. I-it's like these discussions are almost NEVER actually "researching depth" or "trying to understand," it's like they've completely missed the point. If a character really was being written as an autistic, then that's something the author is keeping in mind; it may not be the function of his character whatsoever, just a part of them. But once fans get going on MENTAL DISORDER, I swear it's always the most counterproductive exchange of ideas ever because it's highlighted to the point of being an alien state of being, when really it's a disorder that people live with. And I am probably on a tangent by now, but!

Man, someone else with two autistic siblings? W-what are the odds.

Re: 9 secret-maker

[sylladicks.livejournal.com]

Very, but not insanely so, slim. Hence why you are now my new best friend. ♥

I don't mind telling people that my brothers are autistic. If they don't know what it is, I give them the easiest-way-to-understand-it explanation, and hey if they have more questions, more power to 'em. I've lived with it for 16 years, I'll happily answer them. I can go out in public with my whole family and be completely unphased when the 16-year-old begins stemming and making noises, or when the 14-year-old starts to repetitively say "hi, hi, hi!" to anyone near us. After you live with it, you get used to it, but it's still a heavy pain to carry around.

However, you're right. Fandom takes everything further than it really should go. Everyone misses the point and the original meaning of the discussion is lost. I've seen quite a few characters that people have "diagnosed" as such, but it still is rather infuriating. There may be symptoms that the characters relate with, but seriously, people. They let it get too far and it becomes a huge, fucking pointless mess. Like they say, a person is smart, but people are stupid. You might have a few that are doing it seriously, simply considering all the "evidence" that may lead to it, but there is always going to be a mass group that does a 180 in asshattery to bring the whole thing crashing down.

It just gets worse when people start wanting to be disabled or going "hey, I match up with this symptom, I'm autistic, ace!"

Oh, don't worry, I think I've gone on an enormous tangent through this whole thread, lmfao.

Re: 9 secret-maker

[(Anonymous)]

And a Guy icon on top of it all! It's like destiny!

Same here; people actually can't tell one of my siblings is autistic, but the other is 14 and can't quite communicate. We're so used to dealing with it on a day-to-day basis, and I'm glad to discuss what it's like and go in-depth on quirks; hell, I'll brag about said 14-year-old's ability to kick my ass and yours at videogames. But yeah, discussions like that, or literary discussions on different interpretations of characters (as I was saying to someone else in the post, I'm not against alternate readings!) are p...pretty different from the widespread internets; hell, you can tell even in some of the responses to the secret that it's just. F-frustrating.

I'm pretty sure people who diagnose themselves based on symptoms from Wikipedia is the wwworst part. GOOD TIMES.

Re: 9 secret-maker

[sylladicks.livejournal.com]

Oh if only this was greatestjournal, I would spam you with many Guy icons. And Jade. And Ion. And ... others! Yaey destiny!

The 14-year-old is higher functioning than the 16-year-old, but the latter of the two is more shut-in and antisocial. But he's the one going to speech, and it's doing him good. Except when we have to answer to his repetitive "hi! how're you?" that he brings home. I've tried to get them both to play video games, but alas. They just like to watch me play them. Or ignore me and go watch their Disney movies, rewinding certain parts to where I have them completely memorized. At the moment it's between Rock-a-Doodle's "we hate the sun, that much we know! we hate the sun so never let him crow!" and Jungle Book's "so what do you wanna do?" "I dunno, what do you wanna do?" "now don't start that again!"

Frustrating, yeah. I've given a good skim over the post and have to smack my head into the wall a few times. The only thing I can do is go T-TOLERATE lest I be forced to crack some skulls in. Alternate readings are delightful in some cases, but holy fuck my head. If it gets out of hand, I can't take it. Makes me TWITCHY or something.

GOOD INDEED those are the ones I want to slaughter a bit. Like I said, they wanna figure it out, go pay money to see a doctor. Waste their time. If they do have it, spectacular, wish granted! Have fun with hell.