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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-17 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2358 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
While the myth arc tends to revolve around Sam, he usually ends up forced into a pretty passive role. Fed demon blood as a baby, suffering headaches and visions he can't control, manipulated by Ruby and the angels, having his body returned soulless...

Meanwhile, we only ever really get Dean's reaction to all this, and he gets to make a lot of choices with great impact. Picking up Sam from Stanford, selling his soul, getting Death to return Sam's soul, stopping Sam from completing the trials...

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's true to a certain extent. Like I said, though, I think how you view the roles that Sam and Dean take and their place in the story is influenced by where you're coming from. I can understand a lot of the annoyance that some fans have with most of the storylines being from Dean's viewpoint. It does tend to paint things that Dean disapproves of in a bad light and sometimes the narrative has a really bad habit of always proving Dean right, so to speak. There's also a lot of Sam getting in trouble and Dean having to fix things (with a few exceptions), which I think is frustrating for both Sam fans and Dean fans. OTOH, it's pretty frustrating to see Dean's storylines typically (obviously there are a few exceptions) being all about Sam. Sam is the one that the big things happen to, and the few times that big things happen to Dean, those story threads tend get dropped after a few episodes. The one real exception would be his storyline throughout season 3, I'd say. Other things, like being Michael's vessel and his Purgatory PTSD didn't really get a good follow-through. It would be nice if they switched up the dynamic a bit.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think the active/passive dynamic is a great point. I hadn't really picked up on that, though I certainly picked up on a sort of... lack of connection to Sam, despite his overarching story being "bigger". Dean does a lot of the heavy lifting, and he's the one who not only exercises agency, but whose agency is more often rewarded by the narrative.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-06-18 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile, we only ever really get Dean's reaction to all this, and he gets to make a lot of choices with great impact.

Really? I thought Sam made a lot of really big and some really BAD decisions. Trusting Ruby, joining up with Samuel and his crew, quitting being a hunter several times, going gung-h after Lilith, saying yes to Lucifer. Sam is hardly a bystander. I actually think he makes more active decisions than Dean does, insofar as Deam often runs on programming while Sam is more than willing to go against the script.