[ SECRET POST #2358 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2358 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Dean is the emotional touch stone of the show, so things are usually seen from his POV. However, I'd argue that it's not the Dean show, really, since Sam is usually the one that gets the more active role in things. The plot usually centers around something being wrong with Sam, and then focuses on how events affect Dean. Sometimes, this works out in a way that makes things feel pretty balanced, but later seasons have been bad about feeling pretty unbalanced. In seasons 6 and 7, especially, it felt like Dean was there just because, and Sam didn't have a lot to do until the second half of season 8.

Then again, I know people (like yourself) who have a completely different view of things. I think a lot of it depends on who your fave is. Dean fans tend to have more of a problem with Dean having a less active role in the storyline, Sam fans tend to be bothered by the focus on Dean's POV and view of events, Cas fans tend to get upset if they feel like he's being used as a plot device, and Bobby fans... probably sit in the corner drinking with the Crowley fans, judging everyone else. Or so I like to imagine.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Bobby fans... probably sit in the corner drinking with the Crowley fans, judging everyone else. Or so I like to imagine.

Do you drink double and talk to yourself if you're a Bobby fan AND a Crowley fan? Cuz I need to warn my liver.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. You have to alternate between scotch and whiskey, and you get to be twice as snarky.

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XD

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[(Anonymous)]

This entire section of thread comments is just made of win, thank you. :) Can the Kali and Gabriel fans join you? The martinis are good and we have an endless supply of sweets if you'd like some.

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[(Anonymous)]

The more the merrier! And by that I mean, hell yes to candy and marinis. I vote we call this it the (Mostly) Dead Misanthropes Society and have meetings where we sit around getting smashed and shaking our heads at everyone else.

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[(Anonymous)]

Awesome, I'll whip up an endless pitcher. What flavor, it changes to whatever you want.

[(Anonymous)]

While the myth arc tends to revolve around Sam, he usually ends up forced into a pretty passive role. Fed demon blood as a baby, suffering headaches and visions he can't control, manipulated by Ruby and the angels, having his body returned soulless...

Meanwhile, we only ever really get Dean's reaction to all this, and he gets to make a lot of choices with great impact. Picking up Sam from Stanford, selling his soul, getting Death to return Sam's soul, stopping Sam from completing the trials...

[(Anonymous)]

That's true to a certain extent. Like I said, though, I think how you view the roles that Sam and Dean take and their place in the story is influenced by where you're coming from. I can understand a lot of the annoyance that some fans have with most of the storylines being from Dean's viewpoint. It does tend to paint things that Dean disapproves of in a bad light and sometimes the narrative has a really bad habit of always proving Dean right, so to speak. There's also a lot of Sam getting in trouble and Dean having to fix things (with a few exceptions), which I think is frustrating for both Sam fans and Dean fans. OTOH, it's pretty frustrating to see Dean's storylines typically (obviously there are a few exceptions) being all about Sam. Sam is the one that the big things happen to, and the few times that big things happen to Dean, those story threads tend get dropped after a few episodes. The one real exception would be his storyline throughout season 3, I'd say. Other things, like being Michael's vessel and his Purgatory PTSD didn't really get a good follow-through. It would be nice if they switched up the dynamic a bit.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the active/passive dynamic is a great point. I hadn't really picked up on that, though I certainly picked up on a sort of... lack of connection to Sam, despite his overarching story being "bigger". Dean does a lot of the heavy lifting, and he's the one who not only exercises agency, but whose agency is more often rewarded by the narrative.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Meanwhile, we only ever really get Dean's reaction to all this, and he gets to make a lot of choices with great impact.

Really? I thought Sam made a lot of really big and some really BAD decisions. Trusting Ruby, joining up with Samuel and his crew, quitting being a hunter several times, going gung-h after Lilith, saying yes to Lucifer. Sam is hardly a bystander. I actually think he makes more active decisions than Dean does, insofar as Deam often runs on programming while Sam is more than willing to go against the script.

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree with this comment. You said it way better than I ever could.