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When men start making less than women based on their gender, are having law upon law passed to limit their sexuality, have a harder time at getting Viagra than getting BC, are treated like slut for having sex instead of 'studs', are told they shouldn't join the army because they cause ~distractions~ to female soldiers, and are not allowed to go topless anywhere because their bodies are too ~sexy~, then I might agree. Until then, no.

Except some of this is already happening, like the salary issue. And I don't know where you're from but there has never been a time in my life when women were told not to join the military in America. There WAS a time when some branch-specific colleges did not allow women but that changed 20 years ago. And that wasn't the Army, who has allowed women into West Point since 1976. As for going topless, that's allowed for women everywhere in the US where it's allowed for men.

Women in the military also have a higher clothing allowance than the men.

Probably because bras are stupidly expensive.

Well, with respect to the military: yes, women are discouraged from joining in the U.S., and that's happening right now.

If you want a more tangible milemarker for that, though, it wasn't until 2010 that women were allowed to serve on submarines. So...it's there.

Except that's not true. There were limitations in place for certain fields that disallowed women from doing particular jobs. And every single last one of them is gone now. And as shitty as those things were, they weren't the same as discouraging or disallowing women to join the military. Also, every branch has had some combat or hazard duty MOSs open to women since at least 1995, which is when I joined.

And no, women are discouraged from joining the military even today.

From 2012, http://www.livescience.com/18437-women-military-sexist.html, "

Women are just as capable, physically and mentally, as men in the military, scientists say.
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This article was updated at 2:11 pm EST Feb. 13

The military is opening up jobs for women thanks to eased regulations announced Thursday (Feb. 9), but Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum's opposition to women in direct combat may help reveal the reasons women haven't been allowed on the front lines. The belief, however, contains more myth than science, say sociologists and others who study women in the military.

The truth is, some women are capable, both physically and mentally, of performing admirably on the front lines, just like some men are, Ryan Kelty, a sociologist specializing in the military from Washington College, told LiveScience. Women are currently serving in many positions that put them in harm's way already, Kelty said.

"They can serve as transportation personnel. They can be military police," Kelty said. "They might not be the ones knocking in the door, but they are standing right next to the man who is. Women can do those jobs and they can do them well."

Changes to policy

In an effort to reduce gender-based restrictions on service, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced last week that it would open up 14,000 military jobs to women. Throughout the military, about 80 percent of jobs are open to women currently, but this varies significantly depending on the branch: The Air Force has 99 percent of positions open to women, but the Army has only 69 percent.

The changes include eliminating the"co-localization" rule, which keeps women out of positions localized with direct combat units. Eliminating the policy opens up more than 13,000 positions and even added a few new specialties, such as tank mechanic. The other big change includes opening up more than 1,000 positions at the battalion level (group of about 800 military personnel) to women in specialties such as intelligence and communications. [The History of Human Aggression]

"This report is a start," Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) said in a statement. "Unfortunately, the conclusions of this report do not go far enough. I am very disappointed," Sanchez said, adding that the new openings are essentially, "a pilot program, which I believe is ridiculous." As a member of the House Armed Services Committee,Sanchez is fighting for gender equality in the military both on and off the battlefield.

Why gender differences

Currently women make up nearly 15 percent of the nation's 1.5 million active duty military personnel, pointing to the fact that gender equality in the military has come a long way since the '70s, when North Dakota was off limits because "it was too cold," said Vee Penrod, the deputy assistant undersecretary of defense for military personnel. Still, more than 280,000 service positions had remained closed to women."

And, "According to her research, said Helen Benedict, a professor at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and author of the book The Lonely Soldier: The Private War of Women Serving in Iraq, 1 in 3 women in the U.S. military is raped by another service member.
Mickiela Montoya, one of the female Iraq veterans Benedict interviewed for the book, explained her experience of men’s treatment of women in the military: “There are three things they’ll let you be: A bitch, a ho or a dyke. You’re a bitch if you won’t sleep with them; you’re a ho if you have only one boyfriend; and you’re a dyke if you don’t like them.” from http://www.psmag.com/culture/military-gender-roles-still-thorny-problem-30079/

I don't know about you, but that really makes me want to join the military--it's very encouraging to see that that I've a 1 in 3 chance of being raped, being treated like a piece of trash, etc.

"The Senate Armed Services Committee held hearings on Tuesday into the epidemic of rape in the armed forces. Rape in the military is at a horrific level, and while the military has been arguing that it can clean up its act, the numbers belie that argument. In 2012 alone, there were 26,000 sexual assaults in the US armed forces, numbers that are an outrage to pretty much any thinking person.
Fortunately for senior military officials, the hearing was not just attended by thinking people. Senate Republicans showed up as well. And their responses to the spate of sexual assaults ranged from clueless to downright despicable." from http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/16812-the-bad-the-worse-and-the-horrible-on-rape-in-the-military

I could go on, but I strongly suggest getting your head out of the sand and paying attention to what is going on around you and in society.

No. Women in the USA are still not paid the same salary for the same job as men.

"In the United States, the median income for women is roughly 77% of the median income for men.[14] Economists expect that in a free market, managers would prefer to hire less costly women workers, forcing men to compete with women on wages and balancing out the wage disparity.[15]
Several studies of women in the legal profession reveal persistent gaps in partnership numbers at major American Law Firms. Despite the fact that women have graduated from law schools in equal numbers for over twenty years, only 16-19% of law firm partners are women.[16] [17] Likewise, only 51% of women polled were satisfied with their compensation, compared to 71% of men.[18]" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_pay_for_women

I strongly suggest you eduate yourself and go read through the references listed at the bottom of the wiki.

Also, "When the Equal Pay Act was signed into law by President Kennedy in 1963, women were earning an average of 59 cents on the dollar compared to men. While women hold nearly half of today's jobs, and their earnings account for a significant portion of the household income that sustains the financial well-being of their families, they are still experiencing a gap in pay compared to men's wages for similar work. Today, women earn about 81 cents on the dollar compared to men — a gap that results in hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost wages. For African-American women and Latinas, the pay gap is even greater.
Each year, National Equal Pay Day reflects how far into the current year women must work to match what men earned in the previous year. On National Equal Pay Day, we rededicate ourselves to carrying forward the fight for true economic equality for all.
For more on Equal Pay, including tools, resources and recently announced Apps, see below:" from: http://www.dol.gov/equalpay/

And that's from the freaking Dept of Labor govt website.

Take a good, long look at the male next to you doing the same job as you and realize you're getting paid less than him simply b/c he has a dick.

I do agree with you, but this might tickle you, I'm a woman and I own a small business, 3 women and 2 men work for me. I wonder if you can guess how the wages are worked out? You're welcome!

You should pay your employees based on their position and abilities, not on their sexual organs.

So should everyone else, but they don't. I'm saving my money, and doing my bit to redress the balance.

Pfft. More like you're doing the exact same thing, while trying to say it's wrong (except when you do it).

You mean you pay the women more than the men? That's not cool. Most businesses pay men and women equally. The corruption is at and applies to the top levels of SOME businesses and it's fucking wrong, as is what you're doing.

Hahaha. Why don't you cry more?

I hope you get sued

I wont. They boys don't tent to work for me very long. :D

Dissapointed in you folks above. Even if this is 100% true, obvious troll is obvious.

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