[ SECRET POST #2358 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2358 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But is Moffat saying ALL previous incarnations of the Doctor were big fat liars, as well? I'm genuinely asking if that's your interpretation because I didn't read it that way.


To my recollection - and I could certainly be wrong. In fact it happens a lot. Also I missed a few of the last episodes in 7b - the only people who have said 'The Doctor Lies' are people who've known 11. And 11 DOES lie all the time so that's how people who know that version of the Doctor would see him. Yes River's met other versions but the Doctor she's familiar with, the Doctor she met when she first 'became' River, is 11. So he's HER Doctor and the one she'd most likely be talking about whenever she says 'The Doctor Lies'. And --- I'm blanking now on which other characters have said that but if they've all been characters who have (mostly) known 11's version of the Doctor, it'd make sense for them to think that. And none of that means Doctors 1-10 were the same way.

[intrigueing]

That is my in-universe interpretation, actually, because that would make sense. And actually, you are probably right. While Moffat's "Rule #1 the Doctor lies" catchphrase IS poorly used and supported all on its own IMO, what irritates me the most about it is the way the fans have started spouting it constantly all over the place to explain things 1-10 have done.

So apologies, I think I criticized Moffat a tad too harshly in my previous comment, since he may not have intended fans to run with it that way. Though phrasing it as "Rule #1" doesn't exactly dissuade them...

[mfirefly10]

No apologies necessary. I've been known to interpret things wrong/forget important bits before so I wanted to know if I was missing something obvious about that rule in Moffat's Who.


I don't know why my first comment posted anon either...weird.