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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-18 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2359 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2359 ⌋

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[personal profile] saku 2013-06-18 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
a large point to rapture as a construct was to showcase the effects of tyranny. many freedoms were outlawed despite the city being advertised as a safe place for the best people to practice things that surface society had tabooed. it was only meant for society's greatest thinkers, inventors, etc. and that was its ultimate downfall. frank fontaine himself more or less said that all these people think their admission into rapture makes them "great" (ergo above blue collar work) but they all forget that somebody has to "scrub the toilets." it was fated to be unstable from the start, no less because most of the power that was promised in the city really only applied to andrew ryan.

i think rapture is a beautiful city and a really interesting concept. but rapture is no better - far worse, really - than any other governed area; with the tools presented to the people, we see how quickly it deteriorates. so if you really think that living thousands of meters under the atlantic ocean with a drugged out, mentally unstable populace at the mercy of 3-4 egotistical tyrants is ideal, then be my guest, but you're romanticising the concept of rapture and missing the point of the setting and backstory in the game(s).
Edited 2013-06-18 23:15 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
lbr, though, Rapture wasn't showcasing the effects of tyranny, it was showcasing the effects of Libertarianism at its most extreme. That was kind of the whole point. The tyranny that you're talking about is the inevitable result of pure Libertarianism - tyranny of the mega-rich, who thus have all the rights and make all the rules because they own everything.
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[personal profile] saku 2013-06-18 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
so then yes, it was showcasing the effects of tyranny. its cause isn't really the highlight in my opinion because in all 3 bioshock games the cause has differed, whereas the effect - and the message - has more or less boiled down to "extremism is bad."