[ SECRET POST #2364 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2364 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

16. http://i.imgur.com/fVanfrs.png

[(Anonymous)]

The only thing I remember about Mars Attacks is that it scared the shit out of me as a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

...I love them both.

[helenadax]

I think Mars Attack is tons better than Independence Day.

[klutzygirl]

How about you don't judge people based on which alien movie they like the best?

And I love Bill Pullman in Independence Day, tbh. The "We will not go quietly into the night" speech is awesome.

Have only seen a few minutes of Mars Attack.

I love disaster/alien movies a lot, honestly. Pretty excited for the Independence Day sequel, even if it is cliche.

[fenm]

I kinda feel like you're comparing apples to oranges here. Aside from being alien invasions movies, everything else about them; the feel, the tone, the... purpose? is completely different.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I will always love Independence Day because I was nine in 1996 and now I'm always going to see it through that lens. I'm not a sci-fi fan though, so you can think what you may.

[writerserenyty]

I like both? Mars Attacks is fun and a really excellent parody, but Independance Day is one of my disaster movie guilty pleasures.

[(Anonymous)]

I saw and like both of them. Different feels and different styles.

[(Anonymous)]

I think part of the reason I don't like Independence Day is I'm not American, so to me it feels like American nationalist propaganda where America saves the day while all the other countries sit on their butts and don't do shit.

Having said that, I strongly disagree with your "worst presidential casting in history" comment. Bill Pullman is awesome.

[(Anonymous)]

OP I remember that Independence Day was savaged by critics and viewed as rubbish but popular just because it was fun. I quite enjoyed it but wouldn't call it a good film. I didn't like Mars Attacks.

[(Anonymous)]

I saw Independence Day when I was so young that I didn't know the definition of "Sci-fi cliche" (it also doesn't help that I didn't get more into sci fi until I was an adult) and I think a lot of us saw the movie when we were young, and it was just a fun film.

Mars Attacks was definitely made for people who are really into that quirky sci fi genre, so I didn't even see it when I was young.

Like maybe if these films were released last year I could have this discussion with you, but seeing things when you're young always colors movies differently, especially when you haven't been exposed to all the tropes of storytelling yet.

[(Anonymous)]

We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

[(Anonymous)]

I love both but ID4 will always hold a special place in my heart for being the first time I saw Will Smith outside of Fresh Prince and for making Bill Pullman a household name (even if only for a short while). Mars Attacks is hilarious if you like that kind of movie (most don't) and are in the mood for it, but of course then you're stuck dealing with Jack Nicholson, who is one of the most abhorrent people alive.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it depends on when you saw them? I saw both when they came out and Independence Day was fun, full of action, and the humor was based on wit. Mars Attacks was a spoof of the invasion movies of the 50s and 60s, so it wasn't all that much fun for me since I hadn't seen the movies it was spoofing. Also, the humor was slapstick, which doesn't appeal to me at all. But now I like Mars Attacks because it works as a spoof of invasion movies that came later, too. And I'm much more forgiving about the slapstick humor these days than I was in 1996.

[(Anonymous)]

Mars Attacks remains one of the very few movies I ever walked out of. I'll always love Independence Day though. But then I don't really consider myself to be "a sci-fi fan." And I'm okay with that.

[(Anonymous)]

Independence Day was full of AMERICA FUCK YEAH and SOMEHOW ALIEN COMPUTERS ARE WINDOWS COMPATIBLE WHEN NOTHING ON OUR OWN PLANET IS, but you can't tell me it wasn't fun anyway. Bill Pullman as President and his speech? Yeah I loved that. Will Smith's one liners? Yeah I've got a weakness for him so...yeah.

I loved Mars Attacks, too.

So how about you fuck off and stop being a judgmental prick, huh?

[(Anonymous)]

Independence Day was my first big fandom, the first that I joined online. It was also my introduction to fanart and I still remember how awed I was by the sheer amount of creativity and how people combined traditional art with digital art. My fandom activities before then were some impromptu semi!cosplay with my friends and maybe talking about something we'd have liked to have happen in the movie. If any of us had known about fanfiction, those discussion ideas would have been more appropriately called plot bunnies. It wasn't until Independence Day that any of us actually started writing fanfic and it really set the tone for how I view and participate in fandom even now.

But Mars Attacks was just a silly niche movie that didn't inspire me or anyone I know in any way.

[segnung]

I was about twelve when those came out. I watched Independence Day in the theater with my family (all while my fifteen year old brother ranted and railed about how it was ~cliched cinema) and I enjoyed it for what it was. I watched Mar Attacks when it came out on vhs with my friends and I absolutely adored it. Somewhere in my parents' basement I still have a big, battery operated, talking alien from MA.

For those not aware, Mars Attacks is adapted from an immensely creepy trading card series from 1962. The plan was to also adapt the '80s card series Dinosaurs Attacks (a card series that horrified me beyond all belief as a child) into a film, but Jurassic Park made Burton dismiss that and focus on MA instead.

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is the posters of the movies "Independence Day" and "Mars Attacks" side by side.]

Both these movies were released in 1996. I saw Independence Day first. Everyone had been raving about how great it was, and I just sat there, stunned. I could not believe this was not meant to be a parody. It hit every alien invasion cliché in existence, except water soluble aliens. It did nothing new or interesting. It had the worst presidential casting in history. It was the lamest thing I had ever seen, and I felt like summer blockbuster season was no excuse.

Then I saw Mars Attacks! It hit every alien invasion cliché, except water soluble aliens. The Martians sewed a woman's head onto the body of her chihuahua. It had Jack Nicholson. Gleen Close. Danny DeVito. The weapon that ultimately defeated the aliens was something uniquely human. Fuck, yeah, Slim Whitman. I love this movie to this day. A conscious parody beats an oblivious one any day.

If you ever favor Independence Day above Mars Attacks, I will slightly feel like you're a bad science fiction fan, no matter what else you like.

[dragonimp]

Was water soluble aliens even a thing yet? I don't remember that being a thing until Signs but I'm not up on all my cliches.

[kamino_neko]

One movie, no matter how badly written, does not a cliche make.

'[W]ater soluble aliens' is not a cliche, no matter how much you disliked Signs.

[nightscale]

I like both because they're each goofy in their own way.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen both and I enjoy both but for completely different reasons. Mars Attacks is a good spoof. Independence Day is a good mindless fun movie. Sometimes you don't wanna think too deeply, you just wanna sit and be fed every damn cliche, ogle will smith and be able to cheer on one side without too much morally grey stuff. Mainly just wanna ogle Will Smith though.

[cadremage]

I prefer Mars Attacks myself, but...I think you might be taking movies a little too seriously.