[ SECRET POST #2374 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2374 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[A7X]


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[Archer]


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[x-files]


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[Danisnotonfire/AmazingPhil]


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[Earth2]


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[Saving Hope]


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[Kim Coates]


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[DeliciousCinnamon]


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[Moyashimon]


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[Lucy Lawless]


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[Richard Armitage]


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[Chuck]


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[Keeping Up Appearances]


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[Star Trek]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

True but the majority of conservatives are against rights for gays or women and IMO there's not a whole lot of ways to not make that assholish.

[(Anonymous)]

No, there is a vocal group of conservative politicians who are against LGBTQ and women's rights. And they aren't getting blindly reelected anymore because their constituents do not agree with them.

[(Anonymous)]

uhhhhh

I mean, I'd like that to be true, but I don't really see any practical evidence of it being true. Maybe on the level of national politics and in moderate or toss-up districts and in conversations about "the future of the Republican party", but not as a description of the kind of candidates the conservative Republican base wants, and demands, and the kind of politicians who win elections in deep-red districts and states. They're still perfectly happy electing constituents who are opposed to womens' rights and gay rights; indeed, they pretty much insist on it.

[saku]

as a whole conservatives aren't being reelected at the rate they used to be because the voter group is no longer as conservative as it once was.

a lot of conservative voters actually don't vote forcertain "mainstream" conservative politicians anymore because they don't find them conservative enough.

[(Anonymous)]

I wish this was true, but if you are even a teensy tiny bit aware of politics in the U.S., you would know that it isn't. Not to the extent that we can stop saying that conservatives stand for hating on gay rights and women.

[(Anonymous)]

But the majority of conservatives aren't. The majority of PEOPLE are for rights for gays and women. You can't base your assumption on what most people are like on the comments extremists post online. Look at voting trends and you'll see most conservatives have the same social values as liberals.

[(Anonymous)]

Voting trends could make an argument that conservatives increasingly have the same social values as liberals and that in 20 or 30 years they will have the same social values as liberals. But right now, they don't.

If they do, why are they still trying to ban gay marriage and abortion? Conservatives just tried to pass dramatic abortion restrictions in Texas last week. They just did it in North Carolina literally last night. If they share the same social values, why does this shit keep happening?

[chardmonster]

Was there some kind of town hall meeting where All Conservatives decided they only believe certain things

Why wasn't this covered?

[(Anonymous)]

obviously i am making generalizations to an extent

i suppose i could have made that clearer but i think it's basically justified if we're talking about conservativism as a political phenomenon in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

What the conservative politicians do is not necessarily reflective of what conservative voters want. I live in Texas and actually voted for one of the asshats behind last week's fuckery, much to my eternal shame. But there has never been any indication until two months ago that they would do something like this and of course I wouldn't have voted for them if I'd known they would, nor would anyone else I know. My workplace is filled with conservatives and all but one vile person were absolutely disgusted by what happened last week. And in my immediate family, no one votes along party lines, which is consistent with voter trends across the country. I'm economically conservative and socially liberal, as are my spouse, parents, and siblings, and we all vote that way. And voting trends from 2012 indicate most registered republicans are the same way.

[(Anonymous)]

Alright, I accept that this is a factor that I did not account for. It's something that I didn't think of.

But... I have to admit that I am kind of surprised that you're surprised by stuff like this. Because it's not like it's been a secret. There has been every indication that Republicans would do stuff like this, because it's what they do as a party. The Republican Party has been staunchly and consistently and regularly against abortion and womens' rights, both in principle and in action, for at least the last decade. They've been opposed to abortion to a very great extent for the last 30 or 35 years. This is not a new development or a secret; they have been publicly and frequently and vociferously opposed to abortion. I suppose the extreme lengths of political trickery are a little new. But even then, not really. I'm surprised at you not realizing this because this is what the Republican Party is. There were plenty of indications that Republicans would do this; it's not like it's a new development for them.

I guess it's possible that the majority of Republican voters are socially liberal. But if that's the case, you should get to fucking voting. Because your party keeps on nominating and electing politicians who are the opposite of socially liberal - as far from being socially liberal as possible - and not only electing them but actively working to expel everyone who is not sufficiently socially illiberal. If you really think that all those things are not indicative of the beliefs of the majority of Republican voters, prove it with your fucking actions, because as it stands, the Republican Party as it actually exists - the Republican Party you are supporting - is in no way socially liberal. It's the opposite, almost frighteningly so.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I don't think either party is really putting forth or nominating the candidates the voters want. The party system in America is broken. Decades of corruption have left the people without a voice in government.

[(Anonymous)]

This. The GOP has gotten more extreme over the years, caving in more and more to pressure from the religious right. I sympathize with people who are nominally Republican but more socially liberal, but it isn't exactly breaking news that your party has long since gone off the rails.

You are certainly entitled to protest at being lumped in with the vocal minority of hateful bigots, but if I were you, I'd spend less time expressing outrage over other people giving you the side-eye for still identifying as Republican, and more time seeing that the hateful bigots aren't elected and don't get to spout their bullshit without being repeatedly, loudly called on it by people from their own party.