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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-03 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2374 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2374 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-03 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. It disturbs me that anyone would think that the actions of some are representative of all. The person upthread seems to think that all of the conservative politicians are doing exactly what their voters want them to do and that just isn't the case at all. Just as it isn't the case that what liberal politicians do is always representative of what their voters want.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-03 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the actions of the politicians are necessarily representative of what every single person who voted for them wants them to do, or of every single conservative or every single Republican.

But I do think that they're representative of what the Republican base and Republican activists want. I think it is a significant fact that Republican politicians keep getting elected who believe these things and who vote for these things, and that it is increasingly difficult to get elected to a position of power as a Republican without believing those things. Of course that still doesn't mean that all conservative voters deeply desire those things. But I think it at least means that the majority of people who vote for these politicians are at least OK with those positions.

Seriously, what's your explanation for the observed phenomenon that a ton of elected Republicans are opposed to and vote against rights for gays and women, and that the institutional Republican party is made up more and more of people who demand such opposition, that doesn't indicate that many or most of the people who vote for them and who belong to the Republican party don't support those things either actively or passively?

Again, that doesn't mean that all conservatives or Republicans believe those things (this may be the case especially in blue states). But I think it's generally true in terms of who the modern Republican party is and what they believe and how they act on those beliefs.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-04 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
This - and it's a major reason I forswore any loyalty I once had to conservative politics. When the party I used to favor starts making total dicks of themselves, well...I don't want to support them anymore.

I also became waaay less conservative as a person, but that actually happened after deciding I didn't like Republicans very much any more.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-03 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is that these people keep getting elected, regardless of who they're really supposed to represent, and embody the whole of their voters to the public. Whenever a Republican leader (or a Democrat) makes ridiculous or bigoted decisions, AND gets re-elected after that, then people are going to think that the voters agree with those decisions. The two-party system has its flaws...