[ SECRET POST #2374 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2374 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[A7X]


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[Archer]


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[x-files]


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[Danisnotonfire/AmazingPhil]


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[Earth2]


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[Saving Hope]


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[Kim Coates]


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[DeliciousCinnamon]


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[Moyashimon]


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[Lucy Lawless]


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[Richard Armitage]


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[Chuck]


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[Keeping Up Appearances]


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[Star Trek]


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[Hannibal]














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Comments

[iceyred]

Thank you. I get kind of tired of conservatives being vilified. Liberals are just as jackassy as we are.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. It disturbs me that anyone would think that the actions of some are representative of all. The person upthread seems to think that all of the conservative politicians are doing exactly what their voters want them to do and that just isn't the case at all. Just as it isn't the case that what liberal politicians do is always representative of what their voters want.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the actions of the politicians are necessarily representative of what every single person who voted for them wants them to do, or of every single conservative or every single Republican.

But I do think that they're representative of what the Republican base and Republican activists want. I think it is a significant fact that Republican politicians keep getting elected who believe these things and who vote for these things, and that it is increasingly difficult to get elected to a position of power as a Republican without believing those things. Of course that still doesn't mean that all conservative voters deeply desire those things. But I think it at least means that the majority of people who vote for these politicians are at least OK with those positions.

Seriously, what's your explanation for the observed phenomenon that a ton of elected Republicans are opposed to and vote against rights for gays and women, and that the institutional Republican party is made up more and more of people who demand such opposition, that doesn't indicate that many or most of the people who vote for them and who belong to the Republican party don't support those things either actively or passively?

Again, that doesn't mean that all conservatives or Republicans believe those things (this may be the case especially in blue states). But I think it's generally true in terms of who the modern Republican party is and what they believe and how they act on those beliefs.

[diet_poison]

This - and it's a major reason I forswore any loyalty I once had to conservative politics. When the party I used to favor starts making total dicks of themselves, well...I don't want to support them anymore.

I also became waaay less conservative as a person, but that actually happened after deciding I didn't like Republicans very much any more.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is that these people keep getting elected, regardless of who they're really supposed to represent, and embody the whole of their voters to the public. Whenever a Republican leader (or a Democrat) makes ridiculous or bigoted decisions, AND gets re-elected after that, then people are going to think that the voters agree with those decisions. The two-party system has its flaws...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure they are, and I will totally believe you as soon as you tell me what minority groups liberals have made it party business to marginalize and discriminate against for decades and decades the way conservatives have marginalized and discriminated against homosexuals, anyone who's not white, and women.



Hint: If you say white males or Christians, people will laugh at you.

[(Anonymous)]

You do realize that there are many different types of douchebag, and bigots are only one of them?

[iceyred]

The other anon is correct. Jerkass comes in many different flavors. Personally, I can't stand the flavor of whining about self-inflicted problems, convincing people they are victims when they aren't, and blaming society for every problem under the sun. Passive-aggressive dismissal of an argument I haven't made and have not intention of making is another pet peeve.

The GOP has problems. God above, does it have problems. I will not be voting for the Republican candidates in my state because the problems are so obvious and ridiculous. But can we not pretend like conservatives are the only ones who are jerks? And we are a little more varied in our beliefs and attitudes than the media would have everyone think.

[(Anonymous)]

oh boo hoo

[(Anonymous)]

Other anon here: my personal favorite (and they're a really all-inclusive variety; you can find them in just about any group you can name, advocating for any philosophy or cause) is the "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts, here let me regurgitate a bunch of undigested dogma from my belief system of choice, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T BUY IT WHAT IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT CLEARLY I AM RIGHT AND YOU SUCK" jerkass.