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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-06 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2377 ]


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[personal profile] cat63 2013-07-07 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's kinda like walking down the street one day and suddenly everyone is wearing fruit hats and raving about the best pineapples to use and you're puzzled how it happened.

This. Very much this.

The first time I saw an abo fic I thought it was an AU that particular author had cooked up and thought no more of it. And then I scrolled down the page and there was another one, and another. And then they started cropping up in other fandoms I was reading and I just wondered where it had all come from, because I'm nosey like that.

The other thing I wonder about (although not enough to actually read the stories) is where the betas fit in - because despite the "ABO" label, all the summaries only ever seem to mention the Alphas and Omegas....

Also, I like your analogy very much indeed.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-07-07 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The beta class seems to either mean normal</I. people, or be a way of shunting unwanted characters off as being non-threatening to the fic's main pairing.
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[personal profile] cat63 2013-07-07 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, thank you.

or be a way of shunting unwanted characters off as being non-threatening to the fic's main pairing.

As opposed to, oh, I dunno, not writing about them in the first place? People are weird....
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-07-07 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the fic that comes to mind that used betas as a way to push aside unwanted characters was a werewolf SPN RPF AU fic. I get the feeling there's a who;e collection of "characters" (with the names of Real People attached to them in the case of RPF) that are kinda expected to appear in fics, so the easy way is to make them betas.

That particular fic also had a whole plotline where werewolf culture had developed a whole anti-omega prejudice, so it at least fit in that story that the whole pack was made up of betas, with a ruling alpha.

So far in the Hobbit fandom I've got an impression betas are used as reasoning why so many Dwarves have no interest in marrying (that disinterest is totally canon, but the canon reason is that Dwarves can get so wrapped up in their craft that they don't even consider marriage, even if the gender imbalance wasn't such a problem).
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[personal profile] cat63 2013-07-07 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
a werewolf SPN RPF AU fic

So, nothing complicated then :)

Thanks for explaining it all - it still seems odd to me that people don't just write about the characters they want to write about - especially in an AU - but there you go :)