[ SECRET POST #2377 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2377 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think people feel the need to point it out because a) it seemed to come out of nowhere and b) it's incredibly pervasive. It's kinda like walking down the street one day and suddenly everyone is wearing fruit hats and raving about the best pineapples to use and you're puzzled how it happened.

[inkdust]

This is a great comparison.

[(Anonymous)]

(sa)

Heh, thanks. It was the best I could think of that would convey the strangeness without coming off as unintentionally judgey :)

DA

[(Anonymous)]

so much secondhand embarrassment about the pineapples tbh why would anybody do that ????

I'm not judging though, not at all

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

That's what bothers me. If you're going to say you think a kink is weird just say it. "Your kink embarrass me by existing but I'm not kinkshaming you" is the stupidest thing ever.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I know, if it was grapes or regular apples or something I could understand it, but pineapples? It's just so strange to me. But yeah, if pineapples is what it takes for some, go for the pineapples...

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

i get so embarrassed every time i look at them though

no judging

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Are you pineapple phobic? I judge you.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

It's not even about the pineapples.

Why is everyone wearing the fruit hats? They look ridiculous. They attract flies. They smell bad after awhile. When did this become a thing? They're everywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

...so, like homestuck troll cosplayers walking down the street and talking about nooks and moirails??

:0 suddenly i understand everything

[forgottenjester]

I want this to happen. I want fruit hats. Anon, why must you taunt me with a future that will never be?!

[(Anonymous)]

This is a good comment and you should feel good for making it.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Yes, this.

Especially when we're talking about a fandom that has absolutely no supernatural or magical features (say, I don't know, Hannibal) and half the kinkmeme is MAGICAL OMEGA WORLD.

If it gets your motor going, great - and I mean that - but you have to admit, from an objective standpoint, it's a little strange and so oddly specific.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. I still don't know where it came from.

[cat63]

It's kinda like walking down the street one day and suddenly everyone is wearing fruit hats and raving about the best pineapples to use and you're puzzled how it happened.

This. Very much this.

The first time I saw an abo fic I thought it was an AU that particular author had cooked up and thought no more of it. And then I scrolled down the page and there was another one, and another. And then they started cropping up in other fandoms I was reading and I just wondered where it had all come from, because I'm nosey like that.

The other thing I wonder about (although not enough to actually read the stories) is where the betas fit in - because despite the "ABO" label, all the summaries only ever seem to mention the Alphas and Omegas....

Also, I like your analogy very much indeed.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The beta class seems to either mean normal</I. people, or be a way of shunting unwanted characters off as being non-threatening to the fic's main pairing.

[cat63]

Ah, thank you.

or be a way of shunting unwanted characters off as being non-threatening to the fic's main pairing.

As opposed to, oh, I dunno, not writing about them in the first place? People are weird....

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I think the fic that comes to mind that used betas as a way to push aside unwanted characters was a werewolf SPN RPF AU fic. I get the feeling there's a who;e collection of "characters" (with the names of Real People attached to them in the case of RPF) that are kinda expected to appear in fics, so the easy way is to make them betas.

That particular fic also had a whole plotline where werewolf culture had developed a whole anti-omega prejudice, so it at least fit in that story that the whole pack was made up of betas, with a ruling alpha.

So far in the Hobbit fandom I've got an impression betas are used as reasoning why so many Dwarves have no interest in marrying (that disinterest is totally canon, but the canon reason is that Dwarves can get so wrapped up in their craft that they don't even consider marriage, even if the gender imbalance wasn't such a problem).

[cat63]

a werewolf SPN RPF AU fic

So, nothing complicated then :)

Thanks for explaining it all - it still seems odd to me that people don't just write about the characters they want to write about - especially in an AU - but there you go :)