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I hated Booth from Bones so much that I gave up on the show mid-first season. Liked everyone else on the show, but almost every time he was on screen I just wanted to kick him in the shins.

Also, Hope and Snow from Final Fantasy XIII annoyed me somewhat. I don't hate them or even dislike them that much, but they were kind of boring compared to everyone else.

I only watched like 3 seasons of Bones. While I did like Booth, he was one of the more diminsional characters. Then again, my love for him might have been mostly for his body. David Boreanaz finally grew into his head. :3

You dodged a bullet there!

~~which reminds me: I still have to finish watching the latest train wreck of a Bones Season...~~

Heh, so I'm told.

Me too! Like, forgive me if I don't like the self-righteous douchebag.

Then again, "let's show the stoic intellectual how they're wrong about human emotions" plots never really go over well for me anyway. :/

Yes, that is an excellent summation! I hate that kind of plot as well.

Hope and Snow are meant to annoy you.

If it was any other JRPG, then one of them - either the brave young man who wanted to set the world to rights or the teen-boy orphan out for revenge for his family - would be the unironically heroic main character. FFXIII exists to demonstrate what shitty people they are.

I hadn't thought about it that way before, but that explanation makes a lot of sense. Also, icon love.

That is honestly how I see everything in FFXIII. I mean, JRPGs are conventionally about a group of misfits who meet and become instant bffs and go on a quest together to save the world! and this lot are p. much trying to hate each other to death and don't know what their quest even is, or, for the most part, care. Vanille is a Manic Pixie Dream Girlfriend played for horribleness (plus, lesbian, plus, she is kindof expected to be a white mage healer chick but her main class is actually Saboteur); this is Lightning - she was supposedly girl!Cloud but is actualfax girl!Sephiroth, at least early-on; Snow/Serah is set up as some kind of big central romance but is just barely in at either end of the story and the real central romance is Fang/Vanille; Cocoon is a fake game world that only exists so you can level up in it, and for some reason that makes gamers mad. so yeah i think Final Fantasy XIII is a blistering, life-affirming ball of meta-hate and I am sad it's so underappreciated in that regard.

*snerk* I very much like your interpretation of the game. I did like a lot of the deconstructions of the genre that you mentioned, especially with the party characters - what, you mean the flighty ditz might be putting on an act to deal with all the horrible shit she pulled? And the tough macho chick ended up ruining lives thanks to her hot-headed assholiness? - and honestly think the game would have been better if they actually STUCK to that and gave them character arcs that would turn them into actual better people. Problem is they also wanted a triumphant 'power of friendship' deus ex machina ending, so the entire thing fell flat.

Yeah, my overall feeling was that half the dev team had missed the awesomeness memo :(

Yeah, it really was a game pulling in all directions. Now, you CAN have a deconstruction but also have a triumphant ending, but you need to know what you're doing. The ending to FF13 was just terrible in general though (and I'm not just saying that because the most awesome character got turned into crystal).

/ending spoiler facts

i don't even

... WOW. That had not even occured to me.

Not to mention that the lesbian pair were the only two 'killed' at the end of FF13. Nice job, Square Enix.

Well apparently many of them Get Better in XIII-3, but still.

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